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Any trick to removing the rear caliper? Brake line so tight I couldn't clear rotor

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#1 ·
This is not an active question, but one I meant to ask last week.

When I was doing my parking brake adjust, at one point, I decided to try removing the rotor. I eventually adjusted the parking brake with the wheels fully installed. But at one point, I resorted to trying to remove the rotor to see the sprocket.

Passenger rear. I removed the 2 caliper bolts, and removed the pad wear sensor. But, the brake fluid line had almost no play. I was not able to pull back the caliper far enough to clear the rotor.

Is there a trick to removing the caliper?
 
#3 ·
Not understanding. I tried to remove the entire caliper in one shot.
Are you saying it must be removed in 2 parts?

I don't understand how the rattle clips have anything to do with no slack in the brake line.
I have never heard of having to disconnect the brake line just to remove a caliper from the rotor.
 
#5 · (Edited)
there are two bolts that hold the caliper mounting bracket on. there are also the sliding pins that hold the caliper itself on. you can remove the caliper in two pieces (the caliper itself and the mounting bracket) or you can remove them together by just removing the 16mm bolts on the back of the bracket.

slack in the brake line shouldn't really be relevant in removing anything.
 
#6 · (Edited)
I don't know what the "mounting bracket" is. I just know the "caliper" is the thing that holds the brake pads.
It's held in place with two 16mm bolts that are like 80ft/lbs. I needed my long ratchet handle and a lot of grunt.

I removed the two 16mm bolts behind the caliper, and there was no way the caliper was coming off the rotor.
I still needed to slide it back another 2 inches to get clear of the rotor.
I could not slide the caliper back enough b/c the brake line was taut.
Does that make sense?
 
#10 · (Edited)
Wait, I think I am understanding.

I think on E39 the entire caliper comes off in 1 piece.

But, for E46, it sounds like to remove rotor or replace the pads, you don't actually remove the "carrier" with the big 16mm bolts.
That typically stays on the car. You just remove the other part with dust caps and allen keys? Much less hassle for just pads.
But, if removing the rotor, then you need to take off both parts, separately.

Is that right?

http://www.rmeuropean.com/bmw-e46-brake-pad-rotor-replacement.aspx
 
#12 ·
Your brake hose gets held to the rear trailing arm by a small bracket with a small bolt. You could take that off for some extra slack. You shouldn't need to do that though. I've taken my brakes off both ways many times. Usually I take the caliper guide pins and the spring clip off first and remove the caliper without removing the bracket. To remove the rotor though, you have to remove the bracket (16 mm bolts).
 
#13 ·
When I adjusted my parking brake, if memory serves, I removed the caliper and bracket as a unit by removing the two 16mm bolts, like WD said.

There's a pad wear sensor on the right rear brake that you need to disconnect. That might be what's holding you up.

It goes without saying, but make sure you have a platform of some type to set the caliper down on so it's not dangling by the brake line.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I'm not sure I ever figured this out. Or, if I did, I forgot the answer.

Is the following correct?
You can't remove the caliper and bracket as 1 piece.
You need to remove the guide pins and remove the caliper first.
With it detached from the mounting bracket, you need less clearance for the brake line?

To change pads, you just remove the caliper and leave the mounting bracket (with bigger bolts)
To change rotors, you first remove the caliper, and then the mounting bracket.
But, you never remove them as 1 piece (becuase you can't!)
 
#20 ·
I'm not sure I ever figured this out. Or, if I did, I forgot the answer.

Is the following correct?
You can't remove the caliper and bracket as 1 piece.
You need to remove the guide pins and remove the caliper first.
With it detached from the mounting bracket, you need less clearance for the brake line?

To change pads, you just remove the caliper and leave the mounting bracket (with bigger bolts)
To change rotors, you first remove the caliper, and then the mounting bracket.
But, you never remove them as 1 piece (because you can't!)

Right on.