[John.m]

Following and interested depending on price

 

[t3ddftw]

Are you going to implement all the bus functionality that the IKE is responsible for? For example:

• Bridging the I/K-Bus with the D-Bus solely for diagnostic requests/responses
• Reporting Ignition state to the I/K-bus (without this, the dash will not allow cars with OE Navigation to work)
• Reporting Sensor data to the I/K-Bus (Ambient temperature, speed/RPM (every 2 seconds), coolant temperature, fuel economy 1 & 2, etc)
• Acknowledging all inputs from the LSZ.
• Pulling up the I/K-Bus to VSS (less important since there are master backups).
• Dealing with Redundant data (VIN & mileage information sent from the LSZ to the IKE to trigger the tamper dot)

Thanks!
-Ted

 

[Mr.timnthemlkmn]

Hopefully it's budget friendly. Probably have different variants depending on budget range. Because if it's expensive, nobody would want it.

Lol not true. I’ll promote the shit out of this this and I know a lot of people that’ll buy it. Idk the price. I’d pay $1,500 for a good display

 

[BAMAXXX]

What ever you do, for the love of god, please make sure stability is at the forefront of your production. It doesn't need to have a trillion bells and whistles as long as it runs well and is stable. I want to build a reliable build, and keep the e46 reliable as it was when it was from the factory. I don't want to have to to restart my car half way through every trip because something important stopped working.

 

[rafikimemez]

Hopefully it's budget friendly. Probably have different variants depending on budget range. Because if it's expensive, nobody would want it.

I think this is more of a niche premium product, where instead of quantity it's more quality, for those that go full budget on their builds

 

[rafikimemez]

I think having it look modern and up to date would be amazing, perhaps having some look a like features from the supra mk5 cluster (which is just a bmw cluster) where if you set it in sport mode it's just one nice big rpm gauge and essential info and lights on the sides of the cluster and then when you go back to drive it switches the display back to the set setting chosen.

i think also having some integration with third party headunits being in sync and sharing data would be super useful! say for example the headunit shares gps data with the cluster and the cluster could display an arrow pointing to the next turn to make, that would make the driving experience that more engaging and interesting. However i do know the complications that might bring when programing it would be a great feature set to have and a very unique one at that!

Would the display also be an oled panel or what kind of technology would be used for this? And would after market ecus integrate properly into this cluster?

I'm really excited for the creation of this and would love to see it come to life and have it sit on my bimmer it would def help it feel like im driving a newer modern car!

Key feature im mostly looking forward is a clean look that's easy to look at and gives all the essentials without being over cluttered or lacking information.

 

[bremerd1]

Hi!

I do business at Precision Sport Industries (PSI) [where Vehicle Virals is based].
I've seen one of the units firsthand. I went seeking one for the e46 a good while back, but it didn't yet exist.
I'm excited: It's on the 'must have' list. Do you do pre-release orders?

My comparison (for 'wants') is against my 2015 C7 Corvette Stingray's cluster..

Must haves:
Compatibility with a convertible (the convertible top module doesn't work unless the cluster is in the car, and responding).
Even if not available on initial release, a promise of a software update for future compatibility with a 'vert would do.

Wants / Nice to have:
I/K bus data capture to a SD card (in case say, we don't have the I/K bus messages for a convertible, or parking sensors, or some other feature, we can capture it for you...).
User-configurable display (the 'vette allows you to move the various information bits around so you can do things like water temp on the left, and oil temp on the right of the main display, or the opposite (oil temp on the left, and water on the right).
Oil Temp / Water Temp display on the main screen somewhere (digital/numerical, and/or a 'classic' needle).
Fuel gauge (classic/needle).
Current gear displayed (for ZF/GM based automatic transmissions).
Shift lights (already implemented based on the data in this thread).
Exterior temp on the display somewhere.
Pretty much all of the list from t2ddftw's post.

Shoot for the moon list:
Direct CAN (I/K bus) input (say, from a non-Bosch ECU (DME) for us crazy guys that swap in LS [and other] engines.) Having oil pressure/diff-oil-temp via a mappable CAN message would be stunning.

Where do I sign up for a pre-order / beta-tester / pre-release development version?


Dan B

 

[ZiprHead]

Viewing the thread title I was thinking this was going to be stupid ugly but after looking at the OP I think you guys are no to something. Great work!

 

[manicmoose]

Looks great! I will definitely be keeping my eye on this one.

 

[mattman928]

Two features I have in mind, the first would be a brightness bump up for convertibles on a sunny day.

the second is a long shot, but would it be possible to integrate an OBD2 reader into the display? Maybe get a license from icarsoft. The type of people who will buy this are probably DIYers, and having that capability would be huge

 

[ubrsnl]

Would be on board if it was CAN compatible, lots of swaps out there, would dramatically increase the market to have it able to plug into stock and be configured to work with CAN and other sources.

 

[SConley]

Love this....will make a great upgrade to the M3. How about adding a feature to see Nav split to the side? Trust me, you get this thing up and running and I'll buy one.

 

[Dr. Goodwrench]

Sign me up! Happy to beta test.
2005 ZHP convertible with NAV and Harmon Kardon

 

[Borisov]

Sign me tooooo!

 

[Archbid]

I think it would be cool to show time-series data like lateral forces, acceleration, etc

 

[Bali]

I think it would be cool to show time-series data like lateral forces, acceleration, etc

Push those metrics to a Grafana Cloud instance and let the graphs begin!

 

[Archbid]

Push those metrics to a Grafana Cloud instance and let the graphs begin!

That's do nicely! Embedded 3g data transmission.

 

[Adriaan_ID4Motion]

It is time to give an update about the BMW e46 Digital Gauge Cluster project. The whole team worked hard, and we made some significant progress.

To start, the hardware.

With the hardware, everything is finalized, with some minor details to be solved. The final order from the metal housing will arrive this week and is made 5 KM from our shop. The injection mold for the cover is finished, and the first batch will arrive in the paint shop shortly. We have the correct E46 connectors that will plug into the wiring harness. For this project, we will use our in-house PCB designs and the same automotive display we use in the E90, true and tested on 500+ BMWs right now.

K-Line to RXTX, is the only thing we have to decide. We have to intergrade a K-Line adapter to the Digital Cluster input to convert it to something the gauges can understand. The preferred way is to do this is directly in the wiring harness. (If someone has any good tips?....)

ID4Motion BMW E46 Display PCB

BMW E46 3 Series Cluster bracket

BMW E46 pin connectors

The install.

The installation is a thigh fit (watch out not to scratch your dashboard with the corners of the cluster.) But it will fit without cutting any part of your dashboard.

We will use the already exciting mounting points for the installation from the cluster. The two bolts will go true the cover and display bracket, with some extra room for adjustments. The bolts will secure the whole unit, with the lower part of the cluster fitting snug to the bottom of the dashboard.

We are working out the signals.

We are making great strides in decoding all the signals necessary.
An overview of what we already got:

Signal	Type	Implemented	Comments
Vehicle speed	Freq	Yes
Engine speed/RPM	CAN	Yes
Coolant temp (lin/n-lin)	CAN	Yes
Coolant temp high	CAN	Yes
Traction control indicator	CAN	Yes
Fuel consumption	CAN	Yes
Transmission mode	CAN	Yes
Gear	CAN	Yes
Check engine	CAN	Yes
EML	CAN	Yes
dde (diesel only)	CAN	Yes
Traction control	CAN	Yes
Cruise control indicator	CAN/Digi	Yes
ABS indicator	Digi	Yes
Oil pressure low	Digi	Yes
Oil level low	Digi	Yes
Battery level low	Digi	Yes
Coolant level low	Digi	Yes
Washer fluid level low	Digi	Yes
Brake fluid level low	Digi	Yes
Parking brake	Digi	Yes
Airbag warning	Digi	Yes
Brake wear	Digi	Yes
Catalytic convertor		Working on it	WORKING ON IT
Outside temp	Analog	Yes
Fuel level	Analog	Yes
Oil pressure		Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Oil temp		Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Distance to Empty	f(fuel&fc)	Yes
Odometer(current)	f(speed)	Yes
Trip distance	f(odo)	Yes
Odometer(total)	K-bus	Yes
VIN	K-bus	Yes
Tyre pressure yellow	K-bus	Yes
Tyre pressure red	K-bus	Yes
Convertible icon	K-bus	Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Turn indicators(2)	K-bus	Yes
Doors/boot status(5)	K-bus	Yes
Fuel cap status	K-bus	Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Driver seat belt	K-bus	Working on it	WORKING ON IT
Head lights	Digi	Yes
High beam	K-bus	Yes
Front fog lamp	K-bus	Yes
Rear fog lamp	K-bus	Yes
Head/tail light warning(4)	K-bus	Yes

Because they're a lot of different variations of the E46, we can't measure everything on our test vehicle, so we need to borrow some models to complete the list.
If we are missing essential pieces, please let us know.

Features

The E46 will keep every functionality the original gauge cluster has, including all the tell-tales it can show. But also new extra's

You will be able to add a backup camera to the cluster for a complete view of your surroundings.

A G-Force sensor is implemented for braking, accelerating, or taking hard corners.

We implemented a Night mode to be more visible to read in the dark.

And many more settings to change, like the appearance.

The Timeline

1. Starting January 2022, our test vehicles will drive around with the cluster and give it a shake-down.

2. Early on in February, we will invite 20 test drivers to be the first ones to drive around with it. Testing will be for a reduced price incl. All the features, in trade of feedback.
(Applications will start on the last week of January)

3. If the 20 test drivers are booked, we will take on preorders (Delivery will be after the major bugs are solved)

E46 Digital Cluster testing

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[LoskiTheBroski328]

It is time to give an update about the BMW e46 Digital Gauge Cluster project. The whole team worked hard, and we made some significant progress.

To start, the hardware.

With the hardware, everything is finalized, with some minor details to be solved. The final order from the metal housing will arrive this week and is made 5 KM from our shop. The injection mold for the cover is finished, and the first batch will arrive in the paint shop shortly. We have the correct E46 connectors that will plug into the wiring harness. For this project, we will use our in-house PCB designs and the same automotive display we use in the E90, true and tested on 500+ BMWs right now.

K-Line to RXTX, is the only thing we have to decide. We have to intergrade a K-Line adapter to the Digital Cluster input to convert it to something the gauges can understand. The preferred way is to do this is directly in the wiring harness. (If someone has any good tips?....)

ID4Motion BMW E46 Display PCB

BMW E46 3 Series Cluster bracket

BMW E46 pin connectors

The install.

The installation is a thigh fit (watch out not to scratch your dashboard with the corners of the cluster.) But it will fit without cutting any part of your dashboard.

We will use the already exciting mounting points for the installation from the cluster. The two bolts will go true the cover and display bracket, with some extra room for adjustments. The bolts will secure the whole unit, with the lower part of the cluster fitting snug to the bottom of the dashboard.

We are working out the signals.

We are making great strides in decoding all the signals necessary.
An overview of what we already got:

Signal	Type	Implemented	Comments
Vehicle speed	Freq	Yes
Engine speed/RPM	CAN	Yes
Coolant temp (lin/n-lin)	CAN	Yes
Coolant temp high	CAN	Yes
Traction control indicator	CAN	Yes
Fuel consumption	CAN	Yes
Transmission mode	CAN	Yes
Gear	CAN	Yes
Check engine	CAN	Yes
EML	CAN	Yes
dde (diesel only)	CAN	Yes
Traction control	CAN	Yes
Cruise control indicator	CAN/Digi	Yes
ABS indicator	Digi	Yes
Oil pressure low	Digi	Yes
Oil level low	Digi	Yes
Battery level low	Digi	Yes
Coolant level low	Digi	Yes
Washer fluid level low	Digi	Yes
Brake fluid level low	Digi	Yes
Parking brake	Digi	Yes
Airbag warning	Digi	Yes
Brake wear	Digi	Yes
Catalytic convertor		Working on it	WORKING ON IT
Outside temp	Analog	Yes
Fuel level	Analog	Yes
Oil pressure		Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Oil temp		Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Distance to Empty	f(fuel&fc)	Yes
Odometer(current)	f(speed)	Yes
Trip distance	f(odo)	Yes
Odometer(total)	K-bus	Yes
VIN	K-bus	Yes
Tyre pressure yellow	K-bus	Yes
Tyre pressure red	K-bus	Yes
Convertible icon	K-bus	Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Turn indicators(2)	K-bus	Yes
Doors/boot status(5)	K-bus	Yes
Fuel cap status	K-bus	Working on it	SIGNAL NOT PRESET IN TEST VEHICLE
Driver seat belt	K-bus	Working on it	WORKING ON IT
Head lights	Digi	Yes
High beam	K-bus	Yes
Front fog lamp	K-bus	Yes
Rear fog lamp	K-bus	Yes
Head/tail light warning(4)	K-bus	Yes

Because they're a lot of different variations of the E46, we can't measure everything on our test vehicle, so we need to borrow some models to complete the list.
If we are missing essential pieces, please let us know.

Features

The E46 will keep every functionality the original gauge cluster has, including all the tell-tales it can show. But also new extra's

You will be able to add a backup camera to the cluster for a complete view of your surroundings.

A G-Force sensor is implemented for braking, accelerating, or taking hard corners.

We implemented a Night mode to be more visible to read in the dark.

And many more settings to change, like the appearance.

The Timeline

1. Starting January 2022, our test vehicles will drive around with the cluster and give it a shake-down.

2. Early on in February, we will invite 20 test drivers to be the first ones to drive around with it. Testing will be for a reduced price incl. All the features, in trade of feedback.
(Applications will start on the last week of January)

3. If the 20 test drivers are booked, we will take on preorders (Delivery will be after the major bugs are solved)

E46 Digital Cluster testing

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Where do I sign up? I love the idea I love the concept . All of it . 5 stars in my eyes 💪

 

[Archbid]

Looks fantastic.

a few ideas:
1. Show “hidden menu” options like left and right fuel levels, battery voltage, etc
2. Have a button to read OBD codes (and airbag) and potentially reset
3. Show fuel trims (toggle)
4. Show true engine temp (not “normalized” like IKE)
5. I still like the idea of time series graphs like g-forces (lateral and acceleration)
6. Bluetooth LE OBD port adapter

Are you doing anything with the terrible piezo buzzer that is in the IKE for door open and key in? Would be nice to get a mellower sound.

Hidden menu data:

Just found US version of hidden menu....

I had it in German, which I can read fluently, but didn't really want to translate it. Well, I just found the US version flipping through my Bentley service manual on page 620-4 and 620-5. I do not have a scanner, but can someone scan this on here, so it's on this site?

www.e46fanatics.com