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Crank but no start, low voltage at fuel pump

7.7K views 13 replies 6 participants last post by  Leppelin  
#1 ·
Well, it seems its always something with my car lately. Just rolled over to 84k the other day too. Last night my car was running perfectly until I parked it in front of my house for about an hour and went to move it, the car turned over and chugged a bit then turned off. I restarted it a couple of times to get it to a parking spot and now it just cranks but won't start.

From what I read on the internet, it is a fuel pump issue so I took the rear seat off to see if I could hear the pump kick on but I could not. So I checked the fuse for the fuel pump in the glove box and the fuse under the hood on the driver's side and they were both fine. I also checked the voltage to the connector at the pump and I was only getting 5 Volts.

Could this still be a relay issue? I haven't been able to check that yet, but I am pretty lost on this one. Any help would be appreciated.
 
#3 · (Edited)
See 2nd link below in my signature.

The fuel pump will likely always have a very low Voltage present until Prime or Cranking.

Worry less about the Voltage and realize you likely need to replace your fuel pump if it is not working. You can swap the horn relay and fuel pump relay for a test, but likely not worth the effort, the pump is easier to change then getting at the relay in my opinion!
 
#7 ·
5v is normal at the pump when it's not running. Google "fuel pump voltage site:e46fanatics.com". I suspect it sends 12v to the pump only when it's running but it becomes difficult to test that because the harness is connected to the pump.

Your symptoms do point to the fuel pump itself. Mine failed at 89k miles.
 
#12 ·
The DME sends a supervisory low Voltage to most circuit when not energized. Usually this is 5 Volts, sometimes it can read higher when the load on the circuit is not present.

12 Volts, or usually 11 and change, is send to run the pump during prime, a very short period of time, maybe 1-2 seconds, then while cranking. The reason the fuel pump does not always have 12 Volts present is for safety reasons. The DME has to see a crank signal and/or oil pressure before the fuel pump relay is energized. This is in case the engine stalls or the car is wrecked that the fuel pump does not continue to run and when you sit in your car with the key in position 2 the pump will not run until the DME pick up crank signal and/or oil pressure.

I cannot recall 100% if BMW follows oil pressure, but it is usually a wise idea to shut the fuel off when there is a loss of oil pressure. It likely will save the engine and get the drivers attention, however, this also leads to the likelyhood the engine can cut off in traffic so it is a double edged sword. Protect the engine, or protect the occupant??

I think at the end the day the lawyers decide what happens anyway!!
 
#13 ·
Well, I got the new pump and plugged it in and turned the key on and it did kick on so the pump was definitely the issue. However I'm having some trouble getting the old pump out. The black hose on top of the pump is being a real pain to get off. Also the metal ring that screws down around the pump isn't budging. I'm think I'll spray some WD-40 or something under it to help break it loose. Any tips to get that black hose off? There's not a whole lot of room to pull on it. Thanks in advance.