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#1 ·
Hello everyone! I am new to this forum so I apologize if my format is incorrect. I couldn’t find a post on my issues, so here I am.

My car is dumping brake fluid out of a copper line that runs from the back left corner to the back right corner. This connection is over the back left lower control arms. I’ve been trying to find what part this is and what system it is a part of for a few days now.

Does anyone have any leads on what line this is and anything out of the ordinary on ordering and replacing it.

Thank you all so much. 🙏
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#8 ·
See that’s what I thought but I called a BMW parts department and he said they are all individual lines and don’t interconnect…that’s why I was so confused…

so for my clarity, based on the photos and information I’ve provided you are u see the impression that connector is part 3 and the bending line in the photos is part 4?
 
#13 ·
So I believe that's a (coated) steel brake line... The BMW replacement will also be a steel line, which is a fine way to go.

You have an option - you can replace the rotted sections with Nickel Copper (Ni-Copp) lines, which are typically cheaper and easier to bend...You can likely even leave the the rotted lines in place and route the Ni-Copp line around it.

No problem connecting Ni-Copp lines with old steel lines, just use new fittings and junctions.

I have replaced most of the original brake lines on my E53 with Ni-Copp lines.
 
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#15 ·
That's gonna need parts 2, 3 and 4 as the long pipe to the ABS module is also quite badly corroded. You may be able to get away with cutting the rotten steel pipe back to good steel and reflaring it but that would then require a custom length of pipe from the joiner/coupler to rear wheel.
 
#18 ·
Yes. IIRC, I think BMW may have installed a 10mm fitting on one line and a 12mm on another to help prevent techs (or DIY owners) from mixing up left /right brake lines.

In my brake line kit, I have a spool of Ni-Copp line, both 10 and 12mm fittings and junctions, flaring and bending tools, etc.
 
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#21 ·
My car is dumping brake fluid out of a copper line that runs from the back left corner to the back right
Copper isn’t rusted.

The chassis looks clean so why the pipe? You live in salted roads zone?

can you visit a junk yard and get the parts you need?
Coat the pipes with heavy grease
 
#22 ·
I would order the complete set of rear brake lines. They are not Copper as Copper would be too soft for the pressures. They are coated steel. NiCop is an option as it is within spec for the pressures and easier to route and bend. I would not consider DIY steel lines as they are difficult to bend and flare especially not having experience doing that. Flaring any lines takes practice and a quality flaring set you may never use again.
 
#23 ·
Just if people aren't aware. Pure copper shouldn't be used on vehicles as the vehicle vibrations work harden the copper and cause it to crack but it is rated for the line pressures used in brake systems. The Nickel/Copper alloy can be used on vehicles as the addition of the nickel removes the work hardening issue.

Steel brake lines are crap and used due to cheapness to manufacture. They can just as easily rust from the inside out due to brake fluid being hydroscopic and absorbing water over time.
 
#24 ·
First, a comment: great photos. They make it really easy to zero in on the correct lines.
I'll just add a couple practical suggestions based on my experience. Early and often spray all tubing connections with PB Blaster, or your penetrant of choice. Even if you plan to throw away old parts, the job goes easier if parts unthread more easily and you're not inflicting damage/destruction while working. Also, I really recommend using/getting flare wrenches to avoid, if possible, rounding off the flare nuts. If you need to resort to a vise-grip, working space gets much tighter. Harbor Freight (source for adequate, seldom-used tools) has flare wrench sets for $17 and $40; different size ranges so check before purchase.