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BMW has switched their oil supplier again....

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9.1K views 45 replies 26 participants last post by  lllRazorlll  
#1 ·
BMW announced yet again that they have switched suppliers for their oils. We are now going away from Shell and onto BP (British Petroleum) for BMW branded oils. Under the Castrol label. (BP owns Castrol)

Let the confusion, theories & who is better begin again.
Sigh.

I'll stick with my Liqui Moly and Fuchs.
 
#9 ·
What I learned from my little experience trough years and new/old cars:

use a good quality oil and make oil changes always with the same brand, specification, quality and if possible, change it at least at suggested intervals, if not possible to make it before. "War of brands" is not a good idea, in every field.
 
#11 ·
Here's the "common sense" bottom line:

Our e46 vehicles are now from 15 - 24 years old. These are nowhere near new vehicles - and no one is making car payments on these anymore. Unless you have a seriously modified motor and are racing your e46, simply choose a good quality synthetic oil and filter and change your oil on a regular basis. Be sure to check your oil once every week or two and top off if needed.

All this talk about which oil is superior is honestly nonsense for the overwhelming majority of e46 owners. I have used Mobil-1 0W-40 since I got my e46; and I change oil religiously every 10K miles. I never drive my car hard enough, hot enough, high revving enough that this additive or that additive, or switching back and forth between whichever brand(s) BMW recommends THIS year... is ever going to make ONE BIT of tangible difference in the performance, fuel economy, or engine life of my vehicle. Period. AND IT'S THE SAME FOR ALMOST ALL OF YOU.

If you want to obsess, obsess over doing ALL the recommended maintenance and checks on the rest of your vehicle in a timely manner. Fix the burnt out bulbs; check those brake pads and tire wear and clean your leatherette seats and interior more often. Change that air filter and fuel filter and spark plugs and coil packs before you break down on the side of the road somewhere. Make sure your coolant is not 20 years old; check for leaks or deterioration in the cooling system. Wash and wax regularly and check for hints of rust or corrosion. CEL comes on, don't wait weeks / months to troubleshoot and repair. All those things will contribute SO MUCH MORE to a longer and more pleasurable life for your e46 (and for you) than chasing oil specifications...
 
#41 ·
In the E46 non M cars any of those high quality oils mentioned will be fine. Our non M cars don't have overtight bearings like the M cars and good true synthetic in the correct weight is more than enough for everyone that isn't racing their car, lives in Antarctica or the Summer in the Morocco, but I do want to add a bit of caution because I have seen this exact comment from E46 non M owners chiming in on the turbo threads....I used Billy Bob's synthetic on my E46 for 20 years and changed it every 30K miles and my car runs fine, oil doesn't matter, etc etc. Again, it does not really in the E46 because most good synthetics are more than good for a normally aspirated port injected motor like ours. In new turbo, direct injection motors, IT DOES MATTER. With Injectors in the combustion chamber, fuel reaches the cylinder walls and mixes with the oil so it has to be more resistant to thinning from fuel. Since there is no fuel cleaning the intake valves, you need one with higher evaporative temperatures to prevent too much oil from circulating through the intake system and coking up the intakes and valves. So I just want to make sure that people understand that. Shell (Pennzoil Platinum) had very good evaporative resistance compared to many and because it was made from Gas, it was supposed to be cleaner and have less contaminants than petroleum based oils so it wasn't all about which gave them a better deal. In Europe they car about the environment a little more than here. So to summarize you are correct all the good oils are fine in our non M, normally aspirated E46s as long as we use the correct weight for climate but it becomes more important in newer turbo direct injected motors.
 
#14 ·
I'll stick with my 3-5K OCI and Rotella.

So much hand-wringing over oil. I guess everyone's cars must be in tip-top shape to spend so much time and mental energy focused on trivial stuff like this.

That said, we hadn't had an oil thread on here for a while, so I guess we were due... 😂
 
#29 ·
BMW announced yet again that they have switched suppliers for their oils. We are now going away from Shell and onto BP (British Petroleum) for BMW branded oils. Under the Castrol label. (BP owns Castrol)[/B]
BMW Motorsport been using Castrol for the S54 for a while..
 
#30 ·
Suppliers are a business contract, who is going to supply BMW factory.
BMW themselves have a huge list of manufacturers who's oil has been approved by them. Just go look at BMW TIS.

Engine oil use ACEA, API and ILSAC specification.
BMW will specify which specs suits their engine and which manufacturer has oil tested & approved by them which will carry the BMW LL spec.

People in certain parts of the world will stand by a certain brand.
Nothing to do with brands, all about ACEA, API and ILSAC specification.
Oil manufacturers can't prove their oil is best, nor can they prove rival is worse.
Who are we to say certain brand is better when BMW has so many tested and approved oil.

Learn about ACEA, API and ILSAC specification and use oil that meets the specs & viscosity required by engine manufacturer.
 
#37 ·
What I understand from those in the business is that there’s not a dimes worth of difference in the base stocks used by the mfg.(Mobil, Shell, Castrol, etc) The difference is in the additive packages that they buy from specialist suppliers. Confined and restricted by regulations , the stuff we buy off the shelves for our personal use is pretty much standard generic package for wear and corrosion. Advertising tends to make the individual choice controversial.
 
#38 ·
In BMW's case they sought a quality oil to meet their specification (constantly moving target) and be had at a price point.
At the time Shell was able to produce a VG oil/price point from their location in Qatar; Pearl Gas. They take the LP and crack it into synthetic oils for cars/trucks. Cheaply because what's coming out of the ground is very clean, which makes for less work-cheaper price.

Now that Castrol is under the BP Umbrella, they sought to get back into the game with similar fields in; Kuait, Oman & Saudi Arabia.

FWIW although I've never had the BMW/Shell oil tested, when the switchover happened I was pleased with the clean low ash content.
 
#45 ·
Your shop is behind the curve. Castrol IS the supplier again.
Keep in mind that BMW does want good oil (notice I said good, not great) but just as important is price point.
Plus Castrol wants their name on every BMW oil filler cap. BMW has a large prybar behind their back.

LM makes great oil, in Germany.