[BeMyWhip]

I have been using K&N on all my cars for years; many many years. Never had a problem, but if your afraid, dont use it; use a lesser brand. Or you can simply learn how to clean, dry, and re-oil it properly. Then you will realize improved proformance and flow. The stock filter doesnt even come close to flowing the same amount of air; try this... breath through a paper dust mask, and then breath through your cotton tee; I bet I know which one you perfer and so does your engine!

 

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Do us a favor and post those numbers. And when you're done posting those numbers... find us the ones that show the levels needed to cause damage. Otherwise.... :shhh:

another "talk alot" "know nothing" knocking K&N. I bet he never owned a K&N in his life. Furthermore, I bet he never saw first hand numbers showing how good K&N flow compared to stock paper elements. He's a bandwagon hopper who pushes the "oil gets on your MAF" like the rest of the ignoranaces. :lmao:

 

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+1

ladies and gentlemen... here it is: a non-biased response!

 

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One data point here - I used K&N before and it was bad making the engine dirty. Now I have the aFe Pro Dry and am happy with it. Not much performance difference though. Just personal preference.

not much difference from what... stock or K&N?

 

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bemywhip I'll put money on it that you've never read a UOA in your life, in fact you have no idea what a UOA is? And yes I did own Krap & Nasty, it was on the car when purchased. It went in the bin where all Krap & Nasty should be unless your using them on a racing engine that's rebuilt regularly which is what they were originally designed for. They sure don't belong on a street engine!

UOA... well lets see youre from Australia right?... umm U of A thats a tuff one! :facepalm: Again... it comes down to cleaning, drying, and oiling it properly. You can run what ever you choose, I prefer K&N! My car purrs like a tiger each and everyday with it! BTW, drive safely, what for kangaroos, and keep a shrimp on the barbie for me.

 

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I vote K&N unless someone can post pics on an engine blown because of K&N. UOA's are not all that useful other than to make money for shops that like to say nice.

thank nuts! BTW... love how sarcastic remarks are viewed by the fools. If its really that important to you... used oil analysis

 

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BTW going nuts... bmw go through about 1 liter per 1k mile of synthetic oil; however, the slight if any amount which comes off the filter wont just burn in the cylinder, it with make your engine EXPLODE. the concept is just genius. I bet all these posters are engineers to say the least!!!

 

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:spit: yet again!

you're on fire tonight! (in a dumb way)

You live near Berkeley... too bad you cant aquire knowledge through osmosis!

 

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This thread, while highly amusing, does bring up an interesting point. No one seems to argue that K&N let in more particulate matter, but there seems to be no evidence that the increased dirt effects engine life. This is what I would be interested in knowing.

Lets talk filters. Thank you dead pass for getting the thread back where it should be; The K&N will NOT prematurely kill or damage your engine! period! All the opposition was without merit or more importantly... proof. The proof is in the everyday use amoung millions of users with no ill effects. The "real" world is where you make decisions. you can argue anything in the lab or on paper... even broccoli can be shown to be a carcinogenic, but do we stop eating it? no, because we weigh the pro and cons and go forward. K&N much better than stock.

 

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I created this thread because I wanted to see if anyone had any complaints about k & n filters and I haven't heard any. Anyone who has a k & n filter loves it and has no problems. This whole thread is full of arguments about statistics that someone else has claimed. According to that logic then you all should be driving the most fuel efficient, safest, comfortable, highest rated car, therefore with that logic, you should all be driving a Toyota camry (I highly doubt you are!). I was already leaning towards a k & n filter because I loved it in my truck and it didn't screw up the MAF until 60 000 km later. I have cleaned my motorcycle air filters for years without any affect on the engine, a properly cleaned filter is just as good. My usual oil place wants 50$ for every new filter and it's 75$ for a k & n I think I'm going to go with the k & n filter.

Good for you, and the sound of the K&N is AWESOME on my 330Ci with headers; even at idle you can hear the rumble. Just ingnore the trolls here; obviously they provide no prove against the K&N other than their word of month, and we all know trolls words are meaning and hold no value. I, along with others here have had the K&N for years on many different cars, including 6 years on my current 2004 MDX and about 2 years on my 330Ci.. it was one of my first mods and I love it. you can check my profile album for pics.

 

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I deduce all I need to know from psycho-analysis. Basically you are too defensive, to the point of very quickly resorting to personal attacks and calling names, any 'fact' you claim cannot be reliable. In any case, why are you so desperate for people to go for UOA's ? Are you on commission or something ?

Another thing that puzzles me. I pressume you are in Australia, and you are not an american ? So what are all these plugs for american products for ? You keep implying somehow american made goods are better. Perhaps they are, perhaps they are not, why do you seem to have a vested interest in them ? If american goods are so great, why then the contradiction of driving a german car ?

+1 ... I was thinking that but didnt want to waste my time on this loser anymore. Its obvious he has a vested interest, and that he is :loco:

 

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Good for you, and the sound of the K&N is AWESOME on my 330Ci with headers; even at idle you can hear the rumble. Just ingnore the trolls here; obviously they provide no prove against the K&N other than their word of month, and we all know trolls words are meaning and hold no value. I, along with others here have had the K&N for years on many different cars, including 6 years on my current 2004 MDX and about 2 years on my 330Ci.. it was one of my first mods and I love it. you can check my profile album for pics.

Here I got the pic for you, its my homemade CAI, but im about to do something diff, but still use this K&N filter:

 

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So, that was the point of all Sprint had been saying all along...people need to be informed is all...and not just rely on the "I had one for 5 years and all's good" type of 'proof.'

Agreed, some don't care whether the car last 10 or 30 years, coz it'll be gone in 5 anyway. Me? I always just naturally assume that since our cars are so great, that anyone with one would just want to keep it forever...and I think much of the advice offered here is based on the assumption that an owner would want to always do the best by their car.

When PK and Whip's cars are 20 years old and burning oil like no tomorrow...but suspect they'll be in different 3's by then.

I do love my E46, but never really think about if I will keep it very long term or not. Preferably I will, but in life there are always variables. But in anycase, I still fail to see any proof presented here which show a direct link to K&N causing engine damage or worse engine failure. UOA's may have merit, BUT ONLY if you test 2 similarly equiped cars (example two 2005 330ci's), with everything being equal driving style, climate, milage, octane used, maintenance, etc. And you ONLY change ONE variable... the airfilter, then you can attribute the UOA readings to the filter! This is in a perfect world, otherwise, your just guessing what the "higher causes of silicone" in the oil really are attributed to. In short, produce the evidence, or state your posts as opinions as penquin koolaid, going nuts, or myself have; not unprovable "facts"

 

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I can appreciate your "opinion", but I really value facts backed by studies. Still none, but I didnt really expect one to be produced.

 

[BeMyWhip]

Is proof too much to ask for ??? :banghead:

 

[BeMyWhip]

post 'em up, Im a middle school grad :4ngie: I bet I can do something with them.

 

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If bmw oem intake is the best it can be why did they come out wit the bmw performance intake? Just a real question is it different in some other way. Do you all think it is a valid upgrade or just a audible upgrade? Ive been considering one but if its just a noise maker i think ill put my 300 into the headers instead. Thnx.

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I believe the Aftermarket filter work much better in conjunction with headers. If I had to pick one mod it would be the headers hands down; also, the reason BMW make the stock filter the way it is, is because they have satisfy other criteria such as low decibal, economical, keep cost down, etc. so yeas, an aftermarket performance minded filter is "worth" it!

 

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I did search "K&N" in that bobtheoilguy link, and discovered he said that K&N is the best performance filter for power, but paper filters better. K&N says that their filters filter 99% as well as stock. So if this is true, hence the trade off... more power, more stress, but isnt that true with any power adder? will your engine live as long with a supercharger or headers? will you become as big and strong without the steroids?









Good link, but K&N is still shown to be the best performance filter! K&N filters 99% as well as stock. its a trade off for the improved power; if you add a supercharger, or headers doesnt the increased power possibly decrease engine life. if you want to be big and strong dont you need to take steriods? that will shorten your life too right? Not getting rid of it and will always choose K&N in my future cars as well. any aftermarket filter other than paper with not filter as well, but we're talking miniscle 1% and K&N shown to be the best aftermarket filter available for performance.

 

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Im going catless. My factory headers dont have cats and i have a friend who does my inspections so no problem with that. If i get the intake ill prolly get the bmw perf intake i want to keep the stock look for resale. Thnx for the replys

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Just keep your stock box for when the time comes to sell, thats what I did (this way no one will know you had a K&N which destroys the engine on) and even though you put your engine through catastropic conditions no one will know hahahahahaha. NOT! But seriously, just store your stock box and use what ever you wish in the mean time, I even saved my stock exhaust manifolds if I sell it.

 

[BeMyWhip]

Conforti ITG. Turner motorsports. Easy maintenance and sounds great. Lil pricey though

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I hope you checked up the UOA's on that first because there are people here who will attack your filter choice!