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So should I be happy?!? I'm a 11/01 build. New replacement parts or extended warranty? What is BMWNA gonna do to make me feel more comfortable?!
 

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Cylinder head was also replaced...basically a whole new engine from 12/02 on => new rods, crank, pistons, head. About time though.

<img src="http://members.roadfly.com/jason/cylinder_head.jpg">
 

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my neighbors m3, not over a month old, just had his engine blown. everything is being covered to the best of my knowledge. he said they are shipping in the engine from germany:dunno:

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Didn't someone say that the cause was related to a tolerance not being set correctly on one of the boring machines at the engine plant?

I remember reading that somewhere, but I can't find it again. Can anyone help?
 

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since it's basically a whole new engine... you think the power output will still be the same? someone mentioned that they are changing the camshaft and changing that means changing power right? so will there be less power maybe? lower redline? i'm not very educated on engines so any insight would be helpful :)
 

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soheilm3 said:
my neighbors m3, not over a month old, just had his engine blown. everything is being covered to the best of my knowledge. he said they are shipping in the engine from germany:dunno:

--soheil
Please ask your neighbor to contact me about his engine failure. His very recent build would be a very interesting report to examine.

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Jason
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WTF? I thought they made some sort of change during MAR/APR '02?

So i guess my car can blow too... it's 10/02 production.

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well for the sake of letting people know what happened with his car to better inform the community (lol i hope he wouldnt mind)

"I learned that my car goes 165mph, and that at high speeds and rpm my M3 engine's crankshaft breaks and one of the cylinder ended up detonating. >From the Bimmer boards I learned that's something that's not all that uncommon with the new e46 M3 engine. Oh well. So the dealership up north where I usually get my car serviced looked into my car and decided they needed to ship another new engine from Germany to replace mine.... something about the bearings on the crankshaft being busted."

thats all the info i have,
--soheil
(ps. i dont know his exact build date, but i know his car is no more then two monthes old. also my neighbor is a really cool guy, so i doubt hes gonna care that i said what happened, but just incase im leaving out his name)
 

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Man this sucks, my m3 is an 8/02 build. Why the hell won't bmw simply do a recall and replace the damn defective parts so that m3 owners can drive their cars with peace of mind?
 

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Man this sucks, my m3 is an 8/02 build. Why the hell won't bmw simply do a recall and replace the damn defective parts so that m3 owners can drive their cars with peace of mind?
Do like I do, just drive it like you should be driving it. If it blows, its covered. Dont even trip about it. Why hold back on the car, and "WAIT" for it to blow up? If it blows, it blows.
 

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...not that simple.....

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Do like I do, just drive it like you should be driving it. If it blows, its covered. Dont even trip about it. Why hold back on the car, and "WAIT" for it to blow up? If it blows, it blows.

Bro, its NOT that simple !!! "IF IT BLOWS, IT BLOWS" is NOT a nice or safe thing to say ! ....

You think I want my car's engine to just BLOW while I am cruising with my top down and have all that engine oil spill over me and my passengerss ??????? You should see the video of an engine blowing up ! No body needs that kind of headache or that kind of exposure to possible dangers of an engine blowing up !!

If i spent $65k on this piece of engineering, BMW better take preventive measures to ensure my safety and the safety of my passengers. I can't just WAIT for the motor to give in, so that I can pull to side of the road, wait for a tow truck, have the car towed, go through ALLLLL that hassle, wait for my motor to be replaced, drive a rental car, keep paying my $1000 payment, while scratching my nuts, just BECAUSE BMW didn't rectify my possible problem to begin with ???

I can't even imagine the pain all those 111 people went through whose engines have been reported blown on Jason's site, I have just read about it ! I feel really sorry for all those individuals, even though they have got replacement engines. This is a VERY SERIOUS matter !! I could possibly be next, who knows !!

I have NOT heard another car company go through such a recurring problematic patterns of this magnitude, especially when it has to do with the heart of the car ! A blown engine on a performance car is a BIG deal !

BMW needs to step up !!!!
 

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Bro, its NOT that simple !!! "IF IT BLOWS, IT BLOWS" is NOT a nice or safe thing to say ! ....

You think I want my car's engine to just BLOW while I am cruising with my top down and have all that engine oil spill over me and my passengerss ??????? You should see the video of an engine blowing up ! No body needs that kind of headache or that kind of exposure to possible dangers of an engine blowing up !!

If i spent $65k on this piece of engineering, BMW better take preventive measures to ensure my safety and the safety of my passengers. I can't just WAIT for the motor to give in, so that I can pull to side of the road, wait for a tow truck, have the car towed, go through ALLLLL that hassle, wait for my motor to be replaced, drive a rental car, keep paying my $1000 payment, while scratching my nuts, just BECAUSE BMW didn't rectify my possible problem to begin with ???

I can't even imagine the pain all those 111 people went through whose engines have been reported blown on Jason's site, I have just read about it ! I feel really sorry for all those individuals, even though they have got replacement engines. This is a VERY SERIOUS matter !! I could possibly be next, who knows !!

I have NOT heard another car company go through such a recurring problematic patterns of this magnitude, especially when it has to do with the heart of the car ! A blown engine on a performance car is a BIG deal !

BMW needs to step up !!!!
DAMN RIGHT! For all this money they should come over, put the ****ing new engine parts in, and then wash my car with their tongue. This isnt a civic we are talking about.
 

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Re: ...not that simple.....

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Bro, its NOT that simple !!! "IF IT BLOWS, IT BLOWS" is NOT a nice or safe thing to say ! ....

You think I want my car's engine to just BLOW while I am cruising with my top down and have all that engine oil spill over me and my passengerss ??????? You should see the video of an engine blowing up ! No body needs that kind of headache or that kind of exposure to possible dangers of an engine blowing up !!

If i spent $65k on this piece of engineering, BMW better take preventive measures to ensure my safety and the safety of my passengers. I can't just WAIT for the motor to give in, so that I can pull to side of the road, wait for a tow truck, have the car towed, go through ALLLLL that hassle, wait for my motor to be replaced, drive a rental car, keep paying my $1000 payment, while scratching my nuts, just BECAUSE BMW didn't rectify my possible problem to begin with ???

I can't even imagine the pain all those 111 people went through whose engines have been reported blown on Jason's site, I have just read about it ! I feel really sorry for all those individuals, even though they have got replacement engines. This is a VERY SERIOUS matter !! I could possibly be next, who knows !!

I have NOT heard another car company go through such a recurring problematic patterns of this magnitude, especially when it has to do with the heart of the car ! A blown engine on a performance car is a BIG deal !

BMW needs to step up !!!!
I understand all that. You never know when or where its going to break down. But what is stressing in the mean time going to solve?:dunno: BMW obviously isnt getting off their asses and not going to slap new engines in all our cars. That is reality. Bad service.....yes. Is that going to stop me from driving my car hard...no. Sorry if I sounded a little unsympathetic before, wasnt trying to flame anyone.
 

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I was just in my BMW dealership today and I forwarded my salesguy all this new information we have learned. He informed me that they get together regularly to discuss BMW changes and the ones regarding the M3 engine were not included. That means that the changes are not confirmed.

And honestly, after all this time, i'm starting to begin to think this whole "M3 blowing engine" problem is something that has been simply blown way out of porportion. Out of 13,000+ M3s sold in the US, 112 reported blown engines.... That's not even 1%. I used to be very fanatical about this issue, and now I see that it's not exactly what people have made it out to be.

I'm not saying that we should not be angry... a $60K car should not blow up.... but obviously it can... but who is really at fault????

The fact is, if there was something seriously wrong with the M3 engine, then I believe more than half of them would have blown.... and now that there is speculation that they are making changes in the M3 engine, everybody is jumping the gun saying... see, somethign was wrong!!! But making upgrades after 2 years of production is rather normal i think.

What I've come to realize is that we are dealing with a high performance engine that WILL break down more than an average car and people need to accept that. If you wanted a car that never breaks down, then why did you buy a BMW ???? Specially not a M3!!

BMW is KNOWN to have little problems and WILL need repair (as proven by this forum)!! And the M3 is an even more percise sport tuned machine that will need EXTRA attention and will probably brake more easily. I don't think people realize that and maybe that's why the US spec M3 was always different that the EURO spec... cuz people in the US complain too damn much!!! BMW is already standing behind their product and giving customers new engines for free.. what else to do you want??? a cookie??

I don't mind venting, for I do it too, but I realized that complaining is not getting anywhere when it comes to this issue. I have only seen it cause people to think that there is something terribly wrong with the M3 engine (when nothing has really been proven to be wrong).

Hate me if you will, but I agree with Anthony.... and I also say "IF IT BLOWS, IT BLOWS" Nothing is perfect, but the M3 is close enough.... and that's why even though the engine might "blow" you continue to keep it.... then obviously you are as happy with it as I am. :thumbup:
 

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I agree w/ Impulss! I think this is blown wayyyyy out of proportion. I know many, many M3 drivers, and I survey drivers that I see at gas stations and on the road, and none of them have had any issues. It's a select number of cars, and that does not speak for the majority. I have a friend that is a salesman at Shelly BMW, and he keeps me posted (honestly!) on BMW issues. Every car has problems. Just recently, the Cadillac Escalades had a problem w/ blown motors too. And I doubt anybody was high-revving an Escalade. So it's just a build factor, that's all. Get over the blown motor issue. It's not as bad as some board members seem to make it. Not to sound insensitive, but I just think this is going overboard. If 100 pair of Nike Air Jordans had the air bubble pop, does that mean all Jordans are bad?
 

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Impulss said:

And honestly, after all this time, i'm starting to begin to think this whole "M3 blowing engine" problem is something that has been simply blown way out of porportion. Out of 13,000+ M3s sold in the US, 112 reported blown engines.... That's not even 1%. I used to be very fanatical about this issue, and now I see that it's not exactly what people have made it out to be.

I'll have to disagree with you on this one..

take a look at the proportions of BMW owners surfing BMW boards:dunno: there might also be numerous of other unknown engine blown ups that we don't even hear about..

something to think about:thumbup:
 
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