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SULEV Fuel Pump Cut-Remove-Replace

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2.4K views 10 replies 6 participants last post by  VpointVick  
#1 · (Edited)
Hey All. Let me start out by saying that I've scoured the forums, and have yet to find any detailed information on cutting open the fuel tank without dropping it, to access and remove the non-serviceable fuel pump in a SULEV e46, aside from Bali's recommendations on a few posts and one user's photo of his cut tank. I assume the lack of posts are due to the rarity of our SULEVs, other owners instead opting to do a full blown SULEV-ectomy. Or simply that this DIY job is so straightforward that any further explanation is not needed for others. Hopefully the lack of posts are not for the belief that this is incredibly dangerous and stupid...

Anyway, my EKPS module is throwing codes which I've read with INPA for "Fuel Pump Speed Too Low" with a frequency of 22. I have SES lean codes for Banks 1 & 2. I'm relatively confident that the fuel pump is going out. 2004 325ci 111k miles

I noted Bali's rec on prepping/ draining/ cleaning the fuel tank and his rec for the cutting procedure, but I can't help but ask for more information to feel comfortable, and to possibly help someone else in this situation.

If I do the DIY cut I'll be replacing the fuel pump motor with an m3 to match the SULEV pump specs, and plan on sealing it with gas tank sealer to make it serviceable in the future. I'd really like to replace the fuel filter also if, it's possible. However, the space to work in looks extremely tight.

Has anyone done this before and can offer advice?

The other option I would reluctantly consider is swapping in a non-sulev tank, m3 pump, m3 fuel filter, m3 fuel lines etc + whatever else I'm missing.. but id rather keep this project as straightforward (and cheap) as possible.
 
#5 · (Edited)
What's the problem with dropping the tank? It's not THAT hard to do, just a bit of work.

Fwiw, the rear subframe/suspension/drivetrain can all be lowered together as one unit once the driveshaft is disconnected.

Also, the two service ports under rear seat are small ... and what you are attempting does not need to be made any more difficult than it already is.
 
#8 ·
It would be nice, but E46sulev (in post 6 of his writeup) states that it wouldn't be practical for replacing the filter/pressure regulator assembly ...

The size of the opening limits what you could do in the tank with it still in the car. It could probably work for removing/replacing the fuel pump motor, but definitely not the filter/pressure regulator assembly.
 
#9 ·
Running exhaust gasses into the empty tank is one way to neutralise petrol vapours and water is another way. The water just displaces the fumes from the inside of the tank but doesn't neutralise the vapours.
Also, when TiG welding it is best practice to have zero, or as little, a gap between the two parts being welded together. A 1mm gap from the sliting disc of a grinder isn't much of a problem for a well practiced welder but could prove troublesome for a DIYer.

As for how to do the replacement, I'd be going with the thread linked as there's a lot going on inside that SULEV tank to try and resolve through a small window.

Or, maybe using an aftermarket fuel pump hat or popping a Subaru, or other, basket in as these have the fuel pressure regulator built into the pump basket but filter is external. The sealing collar could be welded to the BMW tank.
 
#10 ·
You're going to have to drop the tank.

The reason there isn't much chatter is that almost all SULEVs end up in the scrapyards.
Where I steal their valve covers... muuuHhaahhaahaaHhaaahaaaaaaa.....

As to welding, purging the tank with inert gas is cheap, easy and foolproof. The old
way with water worked ok for brazing small holes, but it sucks a LOT of heat out of
the metal, and if you get too close to the water, the steam will contaminate the hell out of your weld.
You're not going to bridge a slitting disc cut with a TIG- it's even pretty hard with a MIG,
as you need 100% penetration to get a seal, but the tank's very thin.
Yes, stainless welds just fine with MIG, if you're set up to do it.

Me, I'd be replumbing the thing as a non- SULEV, but that's a huge job, too.

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#11 ·
You're not going to bridge a slitting disc cut with a TIG- it's even pretty hard with a MIG,
as you need 100% penetration to get a seal, but the tank's very thin.
^^^
This.

The single best way to weld light gauge stainless is to do a TIG fusion weld, and an edge joint is the best way to do that. Which is why the factory did it that way and why the best way to attack getting into it again is to do the same.