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[SOLVED] Camshaft position sensor. Aftermarket?

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#1 · (Edited)
Greetings. I noticed some power loss and thought my VANOS wasn't working properly. Read it in INPA and the values didn't move a bit. Had this before and it was a broken intake camshaft sensor. Replaced it with a spare one I had lying around.
Same problem this time. Read memory: No camshaft signal. Don't know which one as my INPA reads in German and my German is a disaster. Gonna read it with PA Soft in a bit.

OEM sensors are €100+ while aftermarkets are no more than €20. I do know that for some cars/brands, when it comes to sensors, aftermarkets are shit.

My question: is it worth trying an aftermarket sensor? Febi, Delphi, Valeo, Hella, Metzger, ... Anyone has any advice with them?

Kind regards

EDIT: I do see that Metzger makes 2 types: Aftermarket quality for €20, and OEM quality for €40. I honestly don't see why they would make 2 series of a sensor. I mean, it's not like one will be "better" than the other. It either works or it doesn't. But can I go wrong if I buy the OEM quality one?
 
#2 ·
no , that's a big no no .Don't go aftermarket there , you are to start a witch hunt of problems .So you are Europe right ? me too and unfortunately here in Europe we can;t get the VNE automotive oem sensor that fcp offers .So it's either bmw oe with that ridiculus cost ( check hubauer.de ) ,or buy the vne from fcp , or try to score one used , but make sure its the updated part , like I did
 
#8 ·
You might be right. I replaced the vanos gasket (oil leak) recently, and I noticed the intake vanos plug was a little loose. I'll check it tomorrow, as the engine was really hot when I checked it.
Could be a link between vanos and cam sensor errors. It was "intake camshaft sensor: implausible signal" btw.

I have always used aftermarket and have had no problems. Having said that I do change them regularly like you normally would a spark plug.
In other words I don't sit around waiting for them to fail.
if you go aftermarket, what brand do you use?
 
#15 ·
My question: is it worth trying an aftermarket sensor? Febi, Delphi, Valeo, Hella, Metzger, ...
honestly over the decades I have seen enough horror stories when it comes to aftermarket CPS to say no. OE or Genuine BMW only on this one.

“worth” is up to each individual. so that’s up to you if you want to take that chance.

besides that, I agree and wait to see if code persists before changing out.
 
#21 ·
many thanks for the input. Anyone know what the Genuine brand is?

Also: big chance it won't be needed as the vanos plug looks a little loose. Gonna check it once my engine is cooled off. Didn't have time to check it yesterday.
 
#28 ·
When I was younger, I used many Delphi, BeckArnley, Bremi, Febi, Meyle, Gates, Echlin
and even Standard Motor Products sensors, parts and products.

When I was younger, these parts came from countries like the United States, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and Germany.
Often, when you opened the box, there was an OE or OEM part in there.

Now, if I buy abovementioned parts, there's a pretty high chance that the country of origin will be China.
THAT correlates to a pretty high chance of premature part failure. Directly.

So I now don't buy them for things that are in any way hard to fix or are likely to strand me. Because they have.
Will quality improve? Depends entirely on what's going on in THIS country (and the EU) regarding ecopolitics that
I understand not very much, but enough to be disgusted.

There.

THAT'S why aftermarket parts have become verboten. It's a quality control issue. And it's a problem
with the SELLERS, not necessarily the SUPPLIERS. The SELLERS specify what they want in the
box, the suppliers just make it for them.

t
greed uber alles.
 
#29 ·
UPDATE

So I found out my intake vanos plug was not fully connected. Plugged it in, works. Read the vanos status in INPA and everything seemed fine. So then I went to clear my errors. Funny enough, AFTER clearing my errors, my vanos went limp again. The "intake camshaft: signal implausible" came back instantly, and my vanos values were frozen once again. This happened AFTER I cleared my errors, as before my vanos worked fine. This is really weird ...
 
#30 ·
I replaced my intake cam sensor with a very cheap aftermarket (it was german, something like hamburg technic?) when it went bad at around 8 years old. The aftermarket one only lasted a year. Replaced again with OE and it is still going strong ten years later. I had similar results with the variable resistor for the fan control. I'm pretty strongly in the camp to go high quality on a part if it is a pain to replace or might leave you stuck somewhere.
 
#34 · (Edited)
I took the risk and bought a Metzger OEM-quality one. First thing I noticed was that when I pulled the old one out, it had some silver/grey blinking stuff on it. Probably some minor metal pieces. I wonder if this was blocking the signal from the camshaft and if the sensor itself was actually faulty or not. I had a broken one which simply gave the fault that it was broken/no signal, but this one said "signal not plausible". Not sure if I can keep it around as a spare one or not. The problem also started right after I did an engine flush and oil change right after that. I did the flush because I rebuilt my engine about a year ago and cleaned it as well as I could (was lots of sludge and burnt shit in there), but thought a flush wouldn't hurt for the small parts I couldn't reach.
Right after that my camshaft sensor gave issues, so maybe this is some minor shit that came loose because of the flush.
Also, the Metzger one had a thicker end than the OEM one.

Either way, new sensor put in, read the VANOS signal with INPA, and everything works fine! Happy so far. Only thing I forgot was to order a new gasket for the VANOS-thing that I had to undo. I can predict it's gonna leak, but gonna order the seal first thing next week.
 
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