Anytime at hot idle, if the total fuel trim (STFT + LTFT for that bank) settles above 10%, it is indicative of a vacuum leak. Yours is around 15%.when engine is warmed up both of the STFT drops closer to 0 and both LTFT rises past 15. also noticed when i rapidly increased rpm the STFT dropped to -20 for a quick second and returned to normal.
The second video confirms adapted lean condition, so smoke test and leak fixing is the next step. 👍
i linked some videos above with a better obd scanner and it shows the maf sensor functioning in kg/hAnytime at hot idle, if the total fuel trim (STFT + LTFT for that bank) settles above 10%, it is indicative of a vacuum leak. Yours is around 15%.
To confirm if it's a vacuum leak, you rise the rev's and watch the STFT. If it drops, might even go negative, then this confirms that you have a vacuum leak.
Your notes above are doing this test.
What is happening? The unmetered air has more impact on the fuel trims at idle than at rev's because the ratio of unmetered air to metered air is greatest at idle. The fuel trims go rich (negative) when reving because that is how the engine works. It adds more fuel to support the increase in load.
Good luck with the smoke test and repairs.
when i did the scan with a different obd scanner the “mass air flow” value was around 11.3 kg/hYour Scanner is showing the pre-cat O2's as mA values around zero mA. Both are cycling correctly.
Even though the engine was not up to full operating temp, the total fuel trims (STFT + LTFT) for both banks are showing around 20%. This indicated a problem.
The MAF value was in pounds/minute and not grams/second, so I have no idea if the MAF value is correct. Your 325CI should be drawing around 2.9 to 3.4 g/s at hot idle.
Read your first post again.
Whenever you clear the codes, it clears the monitors as well.
Running the required drive cycle usually brings the monitors back into "ready".
Suggested next step is to smoke test the engine and find the vacuum leaks that are causing the total fuel trims to be around 20%. Read: How to Smoke Test
Yes, it's about 3 g/si’m wondering if this maf value is correct?
Yes, it's about 3 g/s
Use a mechanic’s mirror and bright light.any idea what could be leaking behind the intake manifold?
Use a mechanic’s mirror and bright light.
Search and read on here to verify, but I think it is expected that the electric air valve vents to atmosphere when closed.
i could barely reach back there. i might just take the intake manifold off to look at all the lines.Well done in finding the vacuum leaks.
There is a number of soft lines behind the manifold for the SAP, plu the valve and a one way valve. Note how the one way valve is plumbed. It's black and white so that helps.
Some reading:
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SAP vacuum switch access - solved
A tip for SAP failure when no vacuum is present on the control valve that sends fresh air (pump output) to the exhaust manifold. I've seen a few DYI's that miss a couple tricks. When you have to dive behind the drivers side, rear engine location to remove the switch, you may have difficulty...www.e46fanatics.com
Post #34: Some new codes! 2002 325i intake manifold removal project
Links in post #3: Retrofitted Old-Style SAP ?? MYSTERY
basically what i’m asking is if i actually have a vacuum leak back there or is it normal for the valve to vent air when off???Well done in finding the vacuum leaks.
There is a number of soft lines behind the manifold for the SAP, plu the valve and a one way valve. Note how the one way valve is plumbed. It's black and white so that helps.
Some reading:
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SAP vacuum switch access - solved
A tip for SAP failure when no vacuum is present on the control valve that sends fresh air (pump output) to the exhaust manifold. I've seen a few DYI's that miss a couple tricks. When you have to dive behind the drivers side, rear engine location to remove the switch, you may have difficulty...www.e46fanatics.com
Post #34: Some new codes! 2002 325i intake manifold removal project
Links in post #3: Retrofitted Old-Style SAP ?? MYSTERY
I do not know. Both of my spare inlet manifolds have been stripped of the SAP valves etc, so I can't test it.basically what i’m asking is if i actually have a vacuum leak back there or is it normal for the valve to vent air when off???
thank you !!I do not know. Both of my spare inlet manifolds have been stripped of the SAP valves etc, so I can't test it.
The first thread I linked was about getting better access without taking he manifold off. Maybe try that access and see where the smoke comes from.
i could try cleaning connector with electrical cleaner spray? i noticed it was a little bit greasy/oily around the plugs but don’t know if it’s enough to make a difference.Do you have a loose connection? That's the only thing I can think of.
- Connector has power but pump does not run
- Pump runs when powered separately
- The connector terminal tightness has not been tested