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So the bushing aren't flush with the carrier and it rides up the control arm.
These are the updated poly bushings with the reinforcement inside the bushing to stop it from riding up any further.




Admittedly, when I have the front wheels up and test for side to side play - there is play and it's coming from the FCAB
While driving and braking the wheel isn't moving back and forth so I figure it's fine.

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Yours look better than mine. One of the Powerflex bushings on my car has moved a lot more than that. I have new set of standard fluid filled rubber bushing ready to go on soon.
 

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The pictures on ECS match what I remember:
PowerFlex FCAB's

When you say there is play do you mean that the wheels moves freely (slop) or that you can move the wheel by deforming the FCAB? I remember after installing these myself that I was surprised they are as soft as they are because I could move the wheel (and control arm) deforming them, but there wasn't any slop.
 

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The pictures on ECS match what I remember:
PowerFlex FCAB's

When you say there is play do you mean that the wheels moves freely (slop) or that you can move the wheel by deforming the FCAB? I remember after installing these myself that I was surprised they are as soft as they are because I could move the wheel (and control arm) deforming them, but there wasn't any slop.
If I grab the wheel at 9am and 3pm and push one side and pull the other, I can feel a slight bump end to end. It's always been like that.

Driving it's fine. Feels tight. Wheels doesn't move while hard stops.

I guess it's normal.

http://powerflexusa.com/images/installinstructions/pff5-4601.pdf
 

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I received a response from powerflex.

"This would only usually happen if A) a none genuine arm has been used and the taper of the casting is different meaning the washer inside of the bush isn’t quite as tight as it should be. This can lead to the middle part of the bush riding up the arm and pulling out of the black part, and B) if the ball joint at the front of the arm is worn allowing for back and fore thrust movement then the same is likely to happen.

If you are getting movement in the arm when holding the wheel at the 9pm and 3am positions, have you checked that the small bump that you are feeling is not coming from the ball joint?

Even if the purple part of the bush has come out just enough to show the lip of the bush, that would still mean that a large portion of the purple inner bush is still being supported by the black outer part of the bush."

I'm leaning towards my issue to be aftermarket arms. though, I wouldn't think aftermarket arms would be out of spec even if it is just a millimeter.
 

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Another update.

So the poly bushings were worn and more surprisingly they wore the aluminum control arms that allowed them to slip up the arms further.

I compared the new arm to the old arm and it the edges left to right are worn on the arm.
The poly bushings held their shape.

This took about 50k miles to have this failure.

So there you have it, if you're poly bushings are riding up - your arms are worn.
 

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This took about 50k miles to have this failure.

So there you have it, if you're poly bushings are riding up - your arms are worn.
Thats quite a bit of wear you have on the bushings. It seems that the front is split and water got in.
The front of the bushings have a metal collar in there to prevent the purple core to creep up towards the front (so out of the rest of the bushing), but on the wear/deformation of your control arms that didnt help obviously.
My powerflex ones have now about 30k miles on them (6 years old) but are still in considerable better condition:

(the magnet was there to show that there indeed sits a metal core in there)

I also dont have any of the wear/deformation on the hex part of the arm that you have and the core of the bushing has been sitting snug in the lollypops for those 30k miles. I never had to adjust/service them.
 
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