[_Tim_]

I'm in the unfortunate situation where my automatic transmission is now due for replacement. Looking into my options I have also looked to swap my transmission for a used one. What I ran into was a lot of transmissions with unknown model numbers to me and mislabelled models. One will fit a 320i while it was obvious it came from a 330i.
Also a thread on the compatibility of the 5HP19 between engines by @burntoutrubber made me wonder what euro spec transmissions would work on my car (a 2004 320i touring). Also what models of the 5HP19 are actually available here in the EU. Information on the various EU models is hard to find in comparison to the North American versions, so I did a bit of digging.

After a bit of research in the European ZF parts catalog and RealOEM I came up with the list below. I am not claiming this list is complete or entirely correct. It did give me a bit more insight into what could work on my car. Hopefully this info can help someone else. If anyone can elaborate or rectify the list, that would be great.

ZF 5HP19 Model	E46 model	Production year	Horse Power	Engine model	Torque converter	Weight Torque converter (RealOEM)	Variants (incomplete)	Other
1060000004	320i	10-1999 / 09-2000	150 HP	M52B20	K30	9,270 Kg	PM
1060000005	323i	03-1998 / 09-2000	170 HP	M52B25	D51	11,690 Kg	TW
1060000006	328i	02-1998 / 06-2000	192 HP	M52B28	S33	12,775 Kg	SA
1060000008	320i	09-2000 / 02-2005	170 HP	M54B22	T51	9,050 Kg	TN
1060000009	325i	09-2000 / 02-2005	192 HP	M54B25	C51	12 Kg	?	009 Only for North America?
1060000010	330i	06-2000 / 08-2006	231 HP	M54B30	U61	13,100 Kg	TU
1060000011	325i	09-2000 / 02-2005	192 HP	M54B25	D51 C51 for TT variant	11,690 Kg 12 Kg	TW = Standard TT = Shorter final drive ratio	323i also referenced as compatible via ZF

For the NA market the 008 and 009 models are identical with exception of the torque converter. The 010 model is for the 330i and has different clutches, TCC, valve body, and torque converter due to higher power and torque.

The assumption I am making at this point is that the only outlier in this list is the 010. All the other models are identical with exception of the torque converter. I found a good 011 for a very decent price so I am taking the gamble it will work in my 320. Fingers crossed.

*Edited to add weights of TC.

 

[jds2726]

I'm in a similar situation to you. 5th gear is starting to slip. Looking at going from a 009 to a 010 on B25.

I saw @burntoutrubber 's thread about the variants as well but I can't find anything about the torque converter differences. Are they just more resistant to damage at the higher torques or do they have different stall speeds/torque multipliers?

All I can tell so far is the gearing is the same on all, 010 has an extra clutch pack + different lock up clutch, and different torque converter on all.

 

[Bali]

@_Tim_ Can you change the coloring and do another screen shot? The numbers are very hard to read.

 

[_Tim_]

I'm in a similar situation to you. 5th gear is starting to slip. Looking at going from a 009 to a 010 on B25.

I saw @burntoutrubber 's thread about the variants as well but I can't find anything about the torque converter differences. Are they just more resistant to damage at the higher torques or do they have different stall speeds/torque multipliers?

All I can tell so far is the gearing is the same on all, 010 has an extra clutch pack + different lock up clutch, and different torque converter on all.

I'm unable to find actual technical specifications on the different torque converters. RealOEM does give weights for the different TC models. 9 KG for the 320, 11.6 KG for the 325 and 13 KG for the 330.
If these are correct? No idea.
The people I’ve spoken to mostly state it’ll work just fine.

My uneducated guess would be the differences mostly have to do with fuel consumption/ emissions and maybe some drivability concerns.

The ZF service center here in the Netherlands can’t comment on interchanging the TC. They just state the TC is matched to engine torque and power. They also claimed a certain TC will not fit a different car. Which is wrong.
This is a comment I’d expect from the manufacturer.

The power and torque differences between the M54B22 and B25 are relatively smal so I’m giving it a go with the 011. Worst case is I'll have to swap the TC for one matched to my engine.

In your case it's a bit different since the 010 transmission is the outlier in all of the variants. There must be people here who have done this particular swap and can comment on drivability. The actual technical differences between the transmissions is not really important in my view.

 

[jds2726]

I think I'm going to give it a go with the 010 and flash the computer with the egs software for the 010.

 

[jds2726]

So, I installed a 010TU transmission in place of my 009 - is there a certain year or model of car that had that transmission that I can try the zusb from? Do different software versions account for different stall speeds or is it just shift points?

 

[burntoutrubber]

I'm in the unfortunate situation where my automatic transmission is now due for replacement. Looking into my options I have also looked to swap my transmission for a used one. What I ran into was a lot of transmissions with unknown model numbers to me and mislabelled models. One will fit a 320i while it was obvious it came from a 330i.
Also a thread on the compatibility of the 5HP19 between engines by @burntoutrubber made me wonder what euro spec transmissions would work on my car (a 2004 320i touring). Also what models of the 5HP19 are actually available here in the EU. Information on the various EU models is hard to find in comparison to the North American versions, so I did a bit of digging.

After a bit of research in the European ZF parts catalog and RealOEM I came up with the list below. I am not claiming this list is complete or entirely correct. It did give me a bit more insight into what could work on my car. Hopefully this info can help someone else. If anyone can elaborate or rectify the list, that would be great.

ZF 5HP19 Model	E46 model	Production year	Horse Power	Engine model	Torque converter	Weight Torque converter (RealOEM)	Variants (incomplete)	Other
1060000004	320i	10-1999 / 09-2000	150 HP	M52B20	K30	9,270 Kg	PM
1060000005	323i	03-1998 / 09-2000	170 HP	M52B25	D51	11,690 Kg	TW
1060000006	328i	02-1998 / 06-2000	192 HP	M52B28	S33	12,775 Kg	SA
1060000008	320i	09-2000 / 02-2005	170 HP	M54B22	T51	9,050 Kg	TN
1060000009	325i	09-2000 / 02-2005	192 HP	M54B25	C51	12 Kg	?	009 Only for North America?
1060000010	330i	06-2000 / 08-2006	231 HP	M54B30	U61	13,100 Kg	TU
1060000011	325i	09-2000 / 02-2005	192 HP	M54B25	D51 C51 for TT variant	11,690 Kg 12 Kg	TW = Standard TT = Shorter final drive ratio	323i also referenced as compatible via ZF

For the NA market the 008 and 009 models are identical with exception of the torque converter. The 010 model is for the 330i and has different clutches, TCC, valve body, and torque converter due to higher power and torque.

The assumption I am making at this point is that the only outlier in this list is the 010. All the other models are identical with exception of the torque converter. I found a good 011 for a very decent price so I am taking the gamble it will work in my 320. Fingers crossed.

*Edited to add weights of TC.

There are a few differences in clutches in the 008 version according to ZF. 008 is the model for the 320

If you read this doc, look for parts that have a different part number for the 008 variant.

I doubt it will make a difference.