Am i the only one who loved the 18-55? yeah you have to upgrade eventually, but thats a helluva lens for what they cost. They are razor sharp, ultra fast focus, have VR, wide to mid range zoom, yeah its not a 2.8, but it gets the job done, and cheap 2.8's will cost you 4 or 5 times as much as what you can get an 18-55 for. I'd recommend the 18-55 as a starter lens every time.