Thats exactly what I was thinking, I almost just ignored the ad. But, then I just felt like i needed to follow up because of the ridiculousness. And I sort of did, thats when he said that his wife was ill and he needed the money to save her life. That part rubbed me the wrong way, although that is unfortunate if it's true.
e46 m3 buy, is this a scam or real? Must see.
Hi, my names nick and I'm new to the forum (although I have been browsing it for quite a while haha). I live in the Phoenix, AZ area and I have been in the market for an 6mt e46 m3 coupe for a little while. I have been scoping out the phoenix craigslist and have test driven a few m3's I have found (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB-Y1KpBFmU). Recently, I have made a shocking discovery on craigslist, one that I am ALMOST certain is too good to be true.
Someone was offering a quote unquote Clean 2003 M3 convertible... for 7500 dollars. Yes, $7500. Naturally, I sent him a shocked email, asking if it was really true. This is our conversation from that point on:
Him:
Hello there and thanks for your interest,
The car is in perfect working condition.It has no scratches on and hasn't been involved in an accident, no rust.
The motor runs very well.The car was always garaged and never been smoked in.The interior is very clean.Also I want you to know that the car is fully paid off, it's not under leasing or bank liabilities.I am sorry to sell the car for $7,500 but my wife has serious health problems and I need the money to save her life.My wife is very sick and I want to tell you that I am not selling this car for profit.I sell the car to help my wife.I hope to find a buyer as soon as possible.I attached some pics for you.If you have any further question please do not hesitate to ask in order to make this a successful deal.
Best Regards
2003 BMW M3 CONVERTIBLE
Mileage: 34,351
Exterior Color: White
Interior Color: Grey
Transmission: 6 SPD MANUAL
Engine: 6 Cylinders
2003 BMW M3 Convertible, Soft Top, 6 Cylinder, Manual 6 Speed, Power Windows, Locks, Seats, Roof, Mirrors, A/C, Cruise Control, Anti-Lock brakes,
CD Player, Harmon-Kardon Sound System W/ Sub woofer, Keyless Entry, Alarm System, Fog Lights, Memory Seats, Bucket Seats, Driver/Passenger Air Bags,
2WD, 2 Doors, Rear Window Defroster, Wiper, Tinted Glass, 19" Alloy Wheels, Aluminum "M" Pedal Set, Rear Spoiler, Car Cover, Non-smoker. Mint condition!
All Original Manuals, Never Raced, Very Pampered, Rain Sensor, Xenon Lights,Navigation, 2 Sets of Tv's in the back
(This was followed by the pictures I have attached)
Me:
This car looks amazing! I showed my dad everything and he barely believes his eyes, similar to my reaction, and he wants me to follow up with you immediately. (I happen to be the car expert between the two of us). Is there any way you could take a picture of the placard located inside the door which contains the VIN number? My dad wanted to run a carfax like he has with all the other m3’s we’ve looked at together. By the way, my cell phone number is xxx-xxxx – feel free to contact me (Nick) if it is easier for you than using email. Also, where in the area are you located?
Him:
Hello there and thank you for comming back,
First off all I want to tell you the car is located in North Bergen, NJ.The sale price is $7,500.00 with shipping/handling included.
The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home.
I´ll like to use an eBay service, so we'll be both protected. No money first to me, i will receive money after you will receive the car.The transaction will be made under
eBay's buyer protection plan. Since this deal will be made using a THIRD PARTY to help us closing this deal, I prefer honnest buyers.
Please let me know if you have the funds available and wish to explain you the payment and shipping process.
Thank you
To view the CARFAX Vehicle History Report, please click the link below:
2003 BMW M3 (WBSBR93423PK03705)
Okay, so nearly everything he has said has pointed me in the scam direction for this. But i figured I would consult the fanatics for a little bit of help. Thanks in advance guys, ill keep it updated.
Someone was offering a quote unquote Clean 2003 M3 convertible... for 7500 dollars. Yes, $7500. Naturally, I sent him a shocked email, asking if it was really true. This is our conversation from that point on:
Him:
Hello there and thanks for your interest,
The car is in perfect working condition.It has no scratches on and hasn't been involved in an accident, no rust.
The motor runs very well.The car was always garaged and never been smoked in.The interior is very clean.Also I want you to know that the car is fully paid off, it's not under leasing or bank liabilities.I am sorry to sell the car for $7,500 but my wife has serious health problems and I need the money to save her life.My wife is very sick and I want to tell you that I am not selling this car for profit.I sell the car to help my wife.I hope to find a buyer as soon as possible.I attached some pics for you.If you have any further question please do not hesitate to ask in order to make this a successful deal.
Best Regards
2003 BMW M3 CONVERTIBLE
Mileage: 34,351
Exterior Color: White
Interior Color: Grey
Transmission: 6 SPD MANUAL
Engine: 6 Cylinders
2003 BMW M3 Convertible, Soft Top, 6 Cylinder, Manual 6 Speed, Power Windows, Locks, Seats, Roof, Mirrors, A/C, Cruise Control, Anti-Lock brakes,
CD Player, Harmon-Kardon Sound System W/ Sub woofer, Keyless Entry, Alarm System, Fog Lights, Memory Seats, Bucket Seats, Driver/Passenger Air Bags,
2WD, 2 Doors, Rear Window Defroster, Wiper, Tinted Glass, 19" Alloy Wheels, Aluminum "M" Pedal Set, Rear Spoiler, Car Cover, Non-smoker. Mint condition!
All Original Manuals, Never Raced, Very Pampered, Rain Sensor, Xenon Lights,Navigation, 2 Sets of Tv's in the back
(This was followed by the pictures I have attached)
Me:
This car looks amazing! I showed my dad everything and he barely believes his eyes, similar to my reaction, and he wants me to follow up with you immediately. (I happen to be the car expert between the two of us). Is there any way you could take a picture of the placard located inside the door which contains the VIN number? My dad wanted to run a carfax like he has with all the other m3’s we’ve looked at together. By the way, my cell phone number is xxx-xxxx – feel free to contact me (Nick) if it is easier for you than using email. Also, where in the area are you located?
Him:
Hello there and thank you for comming back,
First off all I want to tell you the car is located in North Bergen, NJ.The sale price is $7,500.00 with shipping/handling included.
The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home.
I´ll like to use an eBay service, so we'll be both protected. No money first to me, i will receive money after you will receive the car.The transaction will be made under
eBay's buyer protection plan. Since this deal will be made using a THIRD PARTY to help us closing this deal, I prefer honnest buyers.
Please let me know if you have the funds available and wish to explain you the payment and shipping process.
Thank you
To view the CARFAX Vehicle History Report, please click the link below:
2003 BMW M3 (WBSBR93423PK03705)
Okay, so nearly everything he has said has pointed me in the scam direction for this. But i figured I would consult the fanatics for a little bit of help. Thanks in advance guys, ill keep it updated.
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Update.
Heres the latest email I received from him, after asking if someone could come look at the car.
Hello,
I would be glad to meet with you but my job is not offering me this chance..Because of my job I am traveling a lot and I can not stay home and expect to meet potential client.That is why I've choose the internet way to sell it.
If we decide to proceed with this transaction,i will have to contact ebay and provide them all the necessary information, so they can start the process right away.
I will be needing your full name and address for that.You will receive a notification from ebay shortly after that,with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well.
Regarding the payment, you will be instructed to deposit the money to an eBay Bank account.They will hold and insure your money until receipt of the car in good condition.
As soon as i will have the confirmation from ebay that the funds have been deposited to their account, i will immediately start the shipping process. The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home. If you decide to hold the car, then you will have to authorize ebay to release the funds to me, and the transaction will be completed.If you will not be satisfied with the car, you will be able to send the car back through the same shipping company on my expence and your money will be return to you.Though i am sure you will love the car and will not want to return it.The car will be shipped crated by DAS Auto Shippers, this is a door to door delivery service not coast to coast so the car will arrive at your address, you won't have to worry about picking it up from a dock.I will send the car with all the papers and documents(clear title,bills of sale,car's manual).The clear title and the bill of sale will both be signed and they will be shipped together with the car.Also this car will arrive with all the documentations required for registration and 2x keys.If you wish to proceed with the purchase,please provide me your full name and shipping address so I can initiate the deal through ebay right away.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards
________________________________________
This just continues to confuse me. I'm beginning to wonder if this eBay money holding thing he's talking about is actually legitimate. If it is, its almost like why wouldn't I buy it and in worst case scenario just back out like he described?
But certainly this isn't the case. Its also worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure the ad is pulled from craigslist.
Heres the latest email I received from him, after asking if someone could come look at the car.
Hello,
I would be glad to meet with you but my job is not offering me this chance..Because of my job I am traveling a lot and I can not stay home and expect to meet potential client.That is why I've choose the internet way to sell it.
If we decide to proceed with this transaction,i will have to contact ebay and provide them all the necessary information, so they can start the process right away.
I will be needing your full name and address for that.You will receive a notification from ebay shortly after that,with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well.
Regarding the payment, you will be instructed to deposit the money to an eBay Bank account.They will hold and insure your money until receipt of the car in good condition.
As soon as i will have the confirmation from ebay that the funds have been deposited to their account, i will immediately start the shipping process. The car will be delivered to your address in no more than 5-6 working days.You will be given a 5 days inspection period from the day you receive the car at home. If you decide to hold the car, then you will have to authorize ebay to release the funds to me, and the transaction will be completed.If you will not be satisfied with the car, you will be able to send the car back through the same shipping company on my expence and your money will be return to you.Though i am sure you will love the car and will not want to return it.The car will be shipped crated by DAS Auto Shippers, this is a door to door delivery service not coast to coast so the car will arrive at your address, you won't have to worry about picking it up from a dock.I will send the car with all the papers and documents(clear title,bills of sale,car's manual).The clear title and the bill of sale will both be signed and they will be shipped together with the car.Also this car will arrive with all the documentations required for registration and 2x keys.If you wish to proceed with the purchase,please provide me your full name and shipping address so I can initiate the deal through ebay right away.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards
________________________________________
This just continues to confuse me. I'm beginning to wonder if this eBay money holding thing he's talking about is actually legitimate. If it is, its almost like why wouldn't I buy it and in worst case scenario just back out like he described?
But certainly this isn't the case. Its also worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure the ad is pulled from craigslist.well that sucks because that means that K&N, which i always thought was a reputable company, is lying to anyone who views this page!
http://knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=57-1003
And oh that sounds good man, no one said I was buying this car either hah. I'm not in the market for a lambo, but thanks anyway for the sarcasm
done. I hope they get back to me about it do you think they will?
I reported him so I will post if anything happens to him. I would bet my left nut this guys in Eastern Europe.
Haha yeah don't worry I never fell for it I knew it was a scam from the second I saw it, nothing to good to be true is. And I do want to have fun with it, I fully plan on it
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