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Is it ok to have DSC off at all times?
driving with DSC-off,any harm to the car?
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I use to have an 87 and 88 Mustang GT, and a 91 Trans AM, none of those had any type of DSC and all of them had more torque than a 330. It wasn't a problem driving any of them, so a 330 shouldn't be a problem either.
Also, if a person can lose control and rap there car around a pole during notmal driving, maybe they shouldn't be driving at all.
Also, if a person can lose control and rap there car around a pole during notmal driving, maybe they shouldn't be driving at all.
5-6 years ago nocar had DSC and people drove just fine. DSC is just a added security to cover small driving mistakes. DSC wont help for BIG driving mistakes.
If people say they crash their BMW cuz DSC was off, it means that they did something so stupid even a DSC wldnt help. It is not because DSC was off, it is because they drove like an idiot.
I highly recommend attending a AUTOX and see how you do, with or w/o DSC.
Once you know how easy to spin out your car doing 30mph WITH DSC, you wont be so confident in your car doing fast turns. That will make you a safer driver.
Hell I tought I was a good driver untill I did Autox, now I know things I used to do on street was pretty dam close to losing contol of the car. All that 50/50 ratio, drivers car & DSC makes you think your car handles turns 10 times better then any other car, but it DOES NOT.
If people say they crash their BMW cuz DSC was off, it means that they did something so stupid even a DSC wldnt help. It is not because DSC was off, it is because they drove like an idiot.
I highly recommend attending a AUTOX and see how you do, with or w/o DSC.
Once you know how easy to spin out your car doing 30mph WITH DSC, you wont be so confident in your car doing fast turns. That will make you a safer driver.
Hell I tought I was a good driver untill I did Autox, now I know things I used to do on street was pretty dam close to losing contol of the car. All that 50/50 ratio, drivers car & DSC makes you think your car handles turns 10 times better then any other car, but it DOES NOT.
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Our cars are comes with new technology...why not use it? Next thing people will be pulling out their ABS fuses to turn off that feature too since cars back in the day didn't have it.
Guess my take on this is that you can never have too many safety features on your car to prevent yourself (and others) from getting injured or worse being killed in a car accident.
my .02
Guess my take on this is that you can never have too many safety features on your car to prevent yourself (and others) from getting injured or worse being killed in a car accident.
my .02
I never hit anything with my car in 10 years (no accidents other than getting rammed in the ass 2ce on a red light by drivers falling a sleep). And I drive close to 40K miles a year.
Here is my RULES ON SAFE DRIVING.
1. Always assume every other driver on the road is STEVE WONDER on sleeping pills. (Blind & out of it) Expect the unexpected like people driving through red lights & stop signs
2. AVOID Driving behind a SUV or a TRUCK(especially on a highway) which will block you from seeing whats is ahead.
3. Tied to step#2. Always watch 2 or 3 car ahead of you, not just the car in front. Car in front might be related to Step#1 and might not brake
4. Dry contitions 10-15mph over speed limit is OK, Wet 5mph . Highway cops generally dont care about +10mph but surely stop +20mph in NJ upto 74mph is up to their decision, over 80 they have to stop you by law. PLUS fines almost double for +20
5. RearView mirror shows rear, so technically side mirrors should show SIDES(my opininion) So my side mirrors are set to show the blind spots only and will NOT show behind my car, thats what rearview mirror is for. I find this very usefull on highways while changing lanes. Many people adjust side mirrors to show rear of the car while their rearmirror is showing em the same thing. This saved my ass so many times driving at nigh & tired. You tend to be less carefull but pair of head lights in my side mirror alerts me to stop changin lanes
5. You will never know when your car will lose control unless you do it on purpose ahead of time. Dont just assume the threshold of your car and taking turns too fast (do it in a AUTOX, it will look cool for spectators)
6. Red lights and sudden stops always WATCH YOUR BACK. you never know what the person behind you will do. This saved my ass as well. Turnpike exit was jammed for a mile on the right hand lane. I stopped on the right lane and saw an 18wheeler 80pmh coming behind me, not slowing down. I started honking Last second I gunned the engine and pulled to emergeny lane. Truck driver wasnt watching the road and didnt react quickly enough to change his lane or slow down. He was inch away from me while doing emergency lane change at 80mph while I was on the shoulder. If I wasnt watching my rear after a stop I wouldnt be writing this message right now.
Feel Free to add other things
Here is my RULES ON SAFE DRIVING.
1. Always assume every other driver on the road is STEVE WONDER on sleeping pills. (Blind & out of it) Expect the unexpected like people driving through red lights & stop signs
2. AVOID Driving behind a SUV or a TRUCK(especially on a highway) which will block you from seeing whats is ahead.
3. Tied to step#2. Always watch 2 or 3 car ahead of you, not just the car in front. Car in front might be related to Step#1 and might not brake
4. Dry contitions 10-15mph over speed limit is OK, Wet 5mph . Highway cops generally dont care about +10mph but surely stop +20mph in NJ upto 74mph is up to their decision, over 80 they have to stop you by law. PLUS fines almost double for +20
5. RearView mirror shows rear, so technically side mirrors should show SIDES(my opininion) So my side mirrors are set to show the blind spots only and will NOT show behind my car, thats what rearview mirror is for. I find this very usefull on highways while changing lanes. Many people adjust side mirrors to show rear of the car while their rearmirror is showing em the same thing. This saved my ass so many times driving at nigh & tired. You tend to be less carefull but pair of head lights in my side mirror alerts me to stop changin lanes
5. You will never know when your car will lose control unless you do it on purpose ahead of time. Dont just assume the threshold of your car and taking turns too fast (do it in a AUTOX, it will look cool for spectators)
6. Red lights and sudden stops always WATCH YOUR BACK. you never know what the person behind you will do. This saved my ass as well. Turnpike exit was jammed for a mile on the right hand lane. I stopped on the right lane and saw an 18wheeler 80pmh coming behind me, not slowing down. I started honking Last second I gunned the engine and pulled to emergeny lane. Truck driver wasnt watching the road and didnt react quickly enough to change his lane or slow down. He was inch away from me while doing emergency lane change at 80mph while I was on the shoulder. If I wasnt watching my rear after a stop I wouldnt be writing this message right now.
Feel Free to add other things
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gokcer said:
I had a chance to test this in a closed environment on a 300 ft wet skid pad in someone elses car...i had alot of toruble spining the car with DSC on i had to be going over 50 MPH in the WET to bring the tail around and spin the car out..with DSC off it happens at 20 mph
I drove Mustang for two years that no stability control and more torque (obviously) than a 330. It had something labled "traction control" which apparently did nothing, other than make noise and cause the rear tires to skip when it was wet out. I was easily able to induce spins and oversteer with TC both on and off. DSC, on the other hand, does not allow for this.
Honestly, I would probably do just the same with DSC on or off. I leave it on (because it is that extra margin of safety), but because I drove a RWD car with no stability control whatsoever and really bad tires, I am used to being cautious in the rain and gently correcting where necessary. At an autox, I experimented with DSC and found that my car handled better and more predictably (predictably to me, at least, considering what I drove for two years) with it OFF rather than with it on .
Honestly, I would probably do just the same with DSC on or off. I leave it on (because it is that extra margin of safety), but because I drove a RWD car with no stability control whatsoever and really bad tires, I am used to being cautious in the rain and gently correcting where necessary. At an autox, I experimented with DSC and found that my car handled better and more predictably (predictably to me, at least, considering what I drove for two years) with it OFF rather than with it on .
Some insurance industry organization studied accident rates for cars with and without ABS. They found that accident rates did not change for cars with ABS and concluded that driving styles changed when drivers had cars with ABS. They got more aggressive because of the perceived safety factor and canceled out the benefits of ABS.
I'm sure that the same will be true about electronic traction and stability systems.
Ed
I'm sure that the same will be true about electronic traction and stability systems.
Ed
It seems that in reading the section in the owner's manual that explains the function of DSC, it stated something along the order of
"Driving a DSC-equipped car is not an excuse to drive like an idiot."
Although that's been paraphrased, IIRC, the actual quote is written in such a way that the meaning is obviously the same.
"Driving a DSC-equipped car is not an excuse to drive like an idiot."
Although that's been paraphrased, IIRC, the actual quote is written in such a way that the meaning is obviously the same.
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Re: Re: driving with DSC-off,any harm to the car?
Reason for asking? Heard from somebody that it can do some damage to some electrical components in the car, no details. Just wanted to make sure.
Thank you.That answered my question.teamdfl said:
Reason for asking? Heard from somebody that it can do some damage to some electrical components in the car, no details. Just wanted to make sure.
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