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Like many other fanatics, I had the problem of the anti-glare coating over my nav screen getting scratched over time. As we all know this coating is fairly weak and an accidental wipe with a moist towel while cleaning the dashboard is enough to damage it. Over time, my display had started to look something like this (picture taken from another thread):



Being the obsessive fanatic that I am, this kept gnawing at me until I grabbed the problem by the horns and ventured out to fix it.

My original intention was to put an anti-glare film over the screen as it was, hoping that the blemishes would get masked. So I did my research and ordered me up a DayVue anti-glare screen protector from NuShield.com. The film arrived and I put it on the display per the instructions but the scratches could still be seen. So I was back to square one. After doing more research, I managed to summon up the cojones to remove what was left of the coating on my screen. What I ended up doing is captured in this DIY and I am happy with the results.

What you need:

1. NuShield DayVue or other anti-glare screen protector
2. A few toothpicks
3. Small precision screw driver (I used the smallest in my kit - 1.4 mm)
4. Magic Scotch tape
5. Rewards card from your favorite shoe store (or random credit card)
6. Paper napkins or thin towel (not in picture)
7. Cup of water (not in picture)



Step 1 - Remove old coating
I don't have a picture of this part since I was busy holding my cojones together. All that you do is take a damp napkin or towel to your screen and gently scrub the remaining coating off. Make sure the napkin is just barely damp - no water should flow if you squeeze it - and don't use gorilla force on the screen. You will see that the factory coating is very light and comes off with a few strokes over an area. You may want to wrap your 1.4 mm screw driver in the towel to get to the edges. 10-15 min later you should be done. Don't be afraid to apply light pressure on the display, it's fairly strong and you won't break anything.

Step 2 - Prepare the screen
First, ensure that that screen is absolutely dry. Do several strokes with a dry napkin to get the moisture out. You want to make sure that there are no streaks, smudges or fingerprints either. When done, get ready to pull the lint out. I determined that there is only one way to do this, and that is through the power of Scotch tape. Mask your screen from end to end (picture below) and make sure you get the edges by pressing down with the credit card. If you leave any lint on the screen, you will see bubbles in the finished product that you can't get out. So pay attention.



Step 3 - Prepare the DayVue
DayVue comes with a preapplied adhesive on the screen side and masks on both sides. It does not leave anything behind when you peel it off, which is excellent for slow people like me who need to do it a few times before getting it right. Now is a good time to read through the included instructions. While handling DayVue, be careful to hold it by the edges and not let anything touch the adhesive side (including your fingers). If your first try does not go so well, peel off the film by prodding on a corner with a toothpick or 1.4 mm screwdriver. If you find lint on the sticky side of the DayVue, don't panic. Lay it with sticky side up and put down strips of Scotch tape on it as you did above. The Scotch tape will pull out all the lint not disturb the adhesive. I did this 3-4 times without issues.

Step 4 - Install DayVue on screen
Follow the included instructions and use the ol' credit card method. Peel off the mask 1/2" off one edge of the DayVue, position it to your liking and slowly peel the rest of it as you smooth the other side with your credit card. Again I don't have pictures of this step since I was on my fourth attempt and still not getting it right. Do something like this:



If you have air bubbles (not lint) trapped underneath, it's easy to work it to the edges with your fingers. If you are like me and like to get some breeze while working in the car, odds are you will end up with lint in which case you would need to remove the DayVue, lay it sticky side up and get the lint out with Scotch tape.

Your end result should look something like this. If you are happy with the result, you are done. Note, the small bubbles neat the bottom right and middle right were caused by me touching the adhesive accidentally during handling. Also, the bottom left edge was grabbed a few times, as is visible in the picture.



Below are some pictures from my install in different lighting conditions and angles. Needless to say, I consider this a huge improvement from my scratchy screen. My display looks like new again, and has excellent clarity in bright sunlight. It does have a shiny finish to it, much like a BlackBerry display, and that is fine by me since it does not affect clarity at all.











With the sun shining directly over the display. Notice how the pixels on the right edge not covered by the DayVue are nearly not visible.





As I said, the the display has a shiny finish when turned off, like a cell phone. When on, you only see the display without any washout.



With the display off:




If you plan to attempt this, good luck and feel free to post suggestions/feedback/pictures.

Related thread:
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=461064

Disclaimers:
1. I am not responsible if you get your dirty fingers on the wrong side of the DayVue.
2. Likewise I am not responsible if you get water in your Nav display or manage to scratch it, or otherwise damage your car.
3. Lastly, don't bash my wood trim. I got my car that way and I like it.
 

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I have a similar issue, although my display is not as bad, but I am anal, and don't like the defects.

So basically the coating will just rub off w/ light pressure? I am guessing, it does not flake or peel, but rather the screen just looks clearer or a different apperarance? Can you elaborate?

Also did the screen fit exact or was it a bit small?

Thanks for pioneering this.
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I have a similar issue, although my display is not as bad, but I am anal, and don't like the defects.

So basically the coating will just rub off w/ light pressure? I am guessing, it does not flake or peel, but rather the screen just looks clearer or a different apperarance? Can you elaborate?

Also did the screen fit exact or was it a bit small?

Thanks for pioneering this.
Steve
Yes, the coating just rubs off. The screen looks 'lighter' without the coating, the colors are all dull and there is more washout under sunlight.

Good observation - the film I received was just the right height but a bit too narrow. It doesn't look too bad in person but an extra 1/6" wider would be a nicer fit. The person at NuShield requested feedback when done, so I plan to let him know about this.

diy section...please move.

good stuff.

The Dynavin people are in dire need of this info.
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Yes, the coating just rubs off. The screen looks 'lighter' without the coating, the colors are all dull and there is more washout under sunlight.

Good observation - the film I received was just the right height but a bit too narrow. It doesn't look too bad in person but an extra 1/6" wider would be a nicer fit. The person at NuShield requested feedback when done, so I plan to let him know about this.



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So.. after this entire modification is through, the colors are "all dull and there is more washout under sunlight?" Or did you mean that this would be the effect if you hadn't put the screen guard on? Thanks..
 

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So.. after this entire modification is through, the colors are "all dull and there is more washout under sunlight?" Or did you mean that this would be the effect if you hadn't put the screen guard on? Thanks..
The latter - after rubbing off the coating and before putting the screen guard on (as you would expect). I am happy with the glare resistance of the screen guard so far, I have had time to check it out under different lighting conditions. Definitely worth the trouble. :thumbsup: I'll be sure to report back on the long-term durability.
 

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It's gotta be the photos then. In your photos, the screen looks real glossy, shiney, doesn't look like it would do good with glare at all. Looks like it would be too reflective, yeah, like a lot of cell phone lcds.. Lcds that hard to read in the sun.. But again, maybe it's just the photos.
 

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Beats the scratchy display bro.. Best thing is, it looks new and I don't care about the gloss. It doesn't affect readability and clarity in any way. If matte is your thing, there should be something out there.
 

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Looks good. How much would it cost to install the navigation in my 2000 328i. I only have the cd player but I would like to upgrade in the future.
 

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Maybe this

http://www.shop3m.com/98044043143.html

Not sure if it is tinted, but 5 sheets @100$ is a bit much, maybe could get two trys per sheet, I would have to do the math. Although, I would probably need 3 trys to get it right, unless I remove the plastic trim, which seems to be a bit of a pain.

But could split the cost, if others interested. My concern would be if it is clear, but if it is darker, it might be perfect.

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Beats the scratchy display bro.. Best thing is, it looks new and I don't care about the gloss. It doesn't affect readability and clarity in any way. If matte is your thing, there should be something out there.
Yeh, I agree it does look better than what you had before. Actually, I think the gloss might blend better with your wood trim, which is a little glossy as well. I have the matte silver trim, so it may not pass as well.. I'd like to find something that doesn't effect clarity at all, and hides the scratches. Anyone out there have any other ideas, let me know. I'd like to hear them. BTW, anyone know if you can apply a screen guard without taking off more of the oem anti-glare coating any further? And so that you can remove it in the future and not have caused any more imperfections? Thanks..
 

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Maybe this

http://www.shop3m.com/98044043143.html

Not sure if it is tinted, but 5 sheets @100$ is a bit much, maybe could get two trys per sheet, I would have to do the math. Although, I would probably need 3 trys to get it right, unless I remove the plastic trim, which seems to be a bit of a pain.

But could split the cost, if others interested. My concern would be if it is clear, but if it is darker, it might be perfect.

Steve
Hmm, looks interesting.. Before laying out the cash, I wish I could hear from someone who has tried it first hand on our screens though.. Just too much is unknown. There's gotta be several such screen protectors out there, some even already precut at 7".. Hard to know the best one to buy. Also, I'm assuming that any such film you apply to our screen is going to take off whatever oem reflective coating is on there(?) Just kinda finish her off..
 

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Some of them take off the OEM coating, there are some (like the one I used) that don't. You'd have to check beforehand. But if the goal is to make the scratches disappear, you'd probably want to scrub all the OEM coating off and then lay down whatever film you choose. You don't want to run with a bare screen and no OEM coating because the display would pretty much disappear under sunlight, and your screen would be susceptible to damage.
 

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Great stuff. A few questions:

1. You mentioned that the height was perfect but it needed to be wider. Which exact one did you buy? Maybe it would be better to order by custom size in the future?
2. Can you post the measurements of your nav display (in millimeters). diagonal, height and width? I am curious how close they are to an X5's measurements. (I'm thinking of
having NuShield custom make one in a size for me and I want to know more about yours.)
3. If the nav screen isn't terribly scratched and one opts to not remove the coated prior to applying the NuShield, will the adhesive pull it off in between applications? Apparently
Mercedes screens have this problem, I wonder if BMW's are as bad.
4. Did you consider other adhesive protectors (Zagg, etc) before deciding on NuShield?

Yes, the coating just rubs off. The screen looks 'lighter' without the coating, the colors are all dull and there is more washout under sunlight.

Good observation - the film I received was just the right height but a bit too narrow. It doesn't look too bad in person but an extra 1/6" wider would be a nicer fit. The person at NuShield requested feedback when done, so I plan to let him know about this.



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