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I have an 05 318ci and have been experiencing, what I would call, clutch judder.

It happens when pulling off in first gear from a stand still. It starts off gradually as the clutch starts to bite, but gets much worse as you release the clutch further, until the whole car is shaking when you have almost fully released the clutch.

I have also noticed that if I leave the car for a few hours, when I come back and everything is cooled down, it won't judder when I pull off until I've driven 0.5 miles or so.

If I add gas it gets rid of the judder completely. It also doesn't happen if I pull away in second gear. Thoughts?

I've heard that it could be worn clutch (not slipping and I've done the usual road tests to make myself sure of this), DMF, CDV, or oil contaminating the contact points on the clutch. I've also read that it is a nasty characteristic of BMWs and that no one really knows how to fix it???

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Does the engine use any oil? My departed E46 weeped oil at the rear main seal. It was a 2001 330Ci, and the rear main seal is a known issue.

I’d check the guibo (the rubber disc that connects the tranny to the driveshaft).
 

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Does the engine use any oil? My departed E46 weeped oil at the rear main seal. It was a 2001 330Ci, and the rear main seal is a known issue.

I’d check the guibo (the rubber disc that connects the tranny to the driveshaft).
I'll have to give the rear main seal a go. I would've thought that if it was oil contamination then it would be worse when I first start the car and also occur in more gears than just first?
 

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I have similar issues on cold starts. Juddering when pulling away in 1st. Can counter it by applying the throttle. Like you said, once I’ve done a few miles or if I come back to the car within an hour or so it’s not a problem.

My local BMW specialist is certain that it’s the clutch. I’m holding out for now but when it gets really bad I’ll make the plunge and get a new clutch/flywheel.


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I have similar issues on cold starts. Juddering when pulling away in 1st. Can counter it by applying the throttle. Like you said, once I’ve done a few miles or if I come back to the car within an hour or so it’s not a problem.

My local BMW specialist is certain that it’s the clutch. I’m holding out for now but when it gets really bad I’ll make the plunge and get a new clutch/flywheel.


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Yeah its quite bad for me so looking to get it fixed now. Thing is, happens to me all the time after the first 0.5 miles of 'cooling down'. Doesn't matter how long I've been driving for. But seems to be getting quite bad because I have to rev to 2000 to pull away!
 

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I have the same issue on my 2006 325Ci. It has been there since about 100/110k miles. Now it is sitting at 171k miles.
Last year I changed the motor mounts and transmission mounts and it got a lot better. But the source of the chatter is the clutch assembly. I have been reading about it for a while and it seems as the dual mass flywheel is not working correctly and it creates this vibration. Any oil seepage from the rear main seal or a worn out disc will only amplify the issue.
My plan is to buy all the parts little by little and change everything one of these days.
 

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I have the same issue on my 2006 325Ci. It has been there since about 100/110k miles. Now it is sitting at 171k miles.
Last year I changed the motor mounts and transmission mounts and it got a lot better. But the source of the chatter is the clutch assembly. I have been reading about it for a while and it seems as the dual mass flywheel is not working correctly and it creates this vibration. Any oil seepage from the rear main seal or a worn out disc will only amplify the issue.
My plan is to buy all the parts little by little and change everything one of these days.
Like you, I've done a lot of reading about this and the large majority of people say it's the clutch assembly too. Looks like I might go ahead and get the clutch and flywheel replaced in one go.

Does a 2005 318ci have a DMF or SMF? I couldn't find any definitive answers online. Thanks
 

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Yeah its quite bad for me so looking to get it fixed now. Thing is, happens to me all the time after the first 0.5 miles of 'cooling down'. Doesn't matter how long I've been driving for. But seems to be getting quite bad because I have to rev to 2000 to pull away!


I hear ya. It’s just plain embarrassing in heavy traffic!
 
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