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Short story: The BAVSound speakers are direct-fit replacements, so no need to cut panels or splice wires. They do reproduce sound better than the stock system, although at low volume, they lack some clarity. At one time, BAVSound (once known as BSW) also sold a woofer/amp package, but that is no longer available. I've never seen a plug-and-play system from other vendors.
 

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Thanks guys, so I guess the other option is rewire the whole car and add new system?
The car definitely needs speakers, it does have some oem and the past previous owner left me some new in the box crappie Kenwood speakers.
We did upgraded to a avin avant 4 loaded which we love but he needs speakers.

I can definitely do the wiring but I'm not an expert when it comes to sound system configuration, I would need guidance there.
What would be a nice sound system for about$500 or less?

Would like to add an amplifier if that fits within the budget, if its a bit more its ok.
 

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I decided to go with something different like something Crutchfield offers but have no idea on what to pick. I would like to add an amplifier and a sub, nothing crazy. This will be a Christmas gift for my son but I don't know where to start.
I have about $500 budget, not sure if this would be enough including the amp and sub, but if not I could add that later.
 

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I can guarantee you that I will be corrected quickly if I'm wrong, but I don't think you need to rewire the whole car. You'll just have to splice wires for each speaker. I think more of an issue is that the speakers won't be exact fit for the existing holes. The Bavsound will fit perfectly into where the existing speakers are, but you will need to modify (meaning cut) door panels, etc if you use other speakers that are not an exact fit. If your son is an audiophile, Bavsound may not cut it. But if you just want an upgrade from +/- 20 year old speakers, they should be good. I'm probably going to get Bavsound myself, but A) I'm not young and I don't have the patience to be messing around with cutting and B) my car is a convertible, so perfect sound would be pretty elusive anyway.

Amps and subs are beyond me. Maybe someone else can help with that.
 

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read in the Electronics (ICE) subforum here about sound system upgrades.
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Yossarian nailed it--you'd only need to cut the terminal ends off the car's speaker wires and extend them, if needed, to reach the replacement speakers. For that, it's better to have a wiring diagram for the model so you get the proper connections. An amp/sub is a bit more involved--I can't remember how I wired mine, but in theory, you'd need a rear 'center speaker' connection as input to the amp. The problem is that the speaker holes are of odd size, so most aftermarket speakers need to use a spacer to adapt the speaker to the hole in the door panel or deck. What this means, if you're using Crutchfield, is to search for speakers based in what vehicle you're installing them into. Not sure if Crutchfield has this option, but I'll look into it.

A second point Y brought up--Bavsound makes the system better, but not outstanding. Back in the 00's, a car magazine called the basic BMW sound system as akin to "the sound of a cheap transistor radio." They were not wrong. Bavsound helps, but if you're up to speed on current stereo components, you could do better. The problem is simply getting a professional speaker system to look like it was factory-installed.

Like Yossarian, I have a convertible, and I hated the original stereo system. I installed BSW speakers and found the audio to be clearer than it was. I installed the amp and sub a couple months later and noticed a real improvement, but in both cases, I needed a higher volume to really get better performance (I kept the original radio). Since I normally listen to music at lower levels, I don't always see an improvement, and I frequently need to correct Bass, Treble, and Fader levels on the radio to get good performance. And stereo performance changes greatly whether the top is up or down, so changing BTF levels is definitely required.

I'm not a stereo pro, and grew up when the 6x9" speaker ruled the world. I don't know the current prices or better manufacturers, so I can't help with that, but if I get out to the car, I can post some of the speaker hole sizes and wiring color codes.
 

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Hello everyone, I was about to pull the trigger on a new set of speakers from bavasound for my son's 2002 325i but decided against it because I was told I could do better for the same price.

The car definitely needs speakers, it does have some OEM and the previous owner left me some new in-the-box crappie Kenwood speakers and it still sounds awful, to be honest, and I'm not even considering myself an audiphile guy.

We did upgrade to an avin avant 4 loaded which we love but he needs speakers.

I can definitely do the wiring but I'm not an expert when it comes to sound system configuration, I would need guidance there.

I remember him telling me that he like the music to be crystal clear or something like that with some bass, not too much so I guess we don't need an amp and sub. He said once that he likes how the sound system on our 2017 ford explorer sounds.

What would be a nice sound-clear system for about $500 +/-???

I went and check Crutchfield and suggested speakers but have no I idea what would be the best within that budget.

I was chatting with one of their sales rep and suggested this Infinity Reference REF-6530cx

So what would you guys think will be the best setup with that budget?

Thanks in advance.

JR
 

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Thanks for the input guys, so I decided just to upgrade the speakers after most suggestions I have gotten, I don't mind splicing wiring or doing a bit of mods so I can go with aftermarket speakers. I started a new thread in the electronic section to see what most people will recommend.

Crutchfield is what I'm using to see what works but still, I'm not sure what would be a good setup for the money.
 

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Infinity makes very good speakers. Now, the factory front door woofers are 6.25” in diameter. I’m not sure that the Infinity woofer will fit, but if the crutchfield rep says they’ll fit they will fit. What are you planning for speakers in the rear doors? I recommend that you buy Infinity speakers of the same “series” for the rear doors.
 
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