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Why is everyone raving about the arrows and saying that is what makes it better than the 8500. I would think that if any kind of alert goes off you're gonna slow down regardless of where its coming from. Please enlighten me.
 

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Thats not what i was referring to, i know about the back protection. I'm just saying why does one really need the arrows regardless of where the radar is coming from.
 

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The Passport 8500 has back protection too!!

It's just the arrows give you more of a peice of mind of where to look.

When my 8500 goes off, you start to look around and wonder where the cop is hiding. With the arrows, it's comforting knowing where the cop is.

The great thing the V1 has is not the arrows.. it's the bogie counter. Knowing how MANY radar signals there are helps you determine if it's a false alarm. Where as in every other radar detector, everytime it goes off, you won't know where it's coming from or how many....
 

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doesn't the 8500 also differentiate between signals at the same time? Anyhow, wats the point of "knowing" where the cop is, you're gonna slow down anyhow.
 

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I guess it helps. Normally radar and laser comes from the front anyway. Cops normally pace you for a 1/4 mile if they are behind you. The side arrows are normally considered false detections. But who knows.......
 

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NEWBIEFANATIC said:
doesn't the 8500 also differentiate between signals at the same time? Anyhow, wats the point of "knowing" where the cop is, you're gonna slow down anyhow.
it only differentiates between differnt radar bands.

99% of the time when radar goes off, it's not a cop... because radar signals are EVERYWHERe coming from everything.... you can't really filter only for cops because they use the same bands.

After having a radar detector for a while, you get used to it beeping and naturally ignore it most of the time. I know my 8500 and i know when it's really a cop, that's the only time my signal strength goes to 100%. But ignoring it before it gets to the top strength decreases my reaction time to slow down. If i knew if it was coming from ahead of me, then it would tell me not to ignore it sooner.
 

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Mike Valentine says that the reason why arrows are so important is that it helps you better identify and defend against threats.

For example, if your detector went off and you slowed down in accordance, you would feel safe after passing by the police car. Let's say 10 seconds later you get some apparent "echoing" detection and you assume that it's deflections or fragments of the previous radar. If you had a normal radar detector you CAN'T tell if it's a NEW threat or the old threat.

With V1, if it's pointing forward, then you know it's another threat. If it's pointing from behind, it's most likely the previous threat.

Also, there are places where cops have multiple radar guns around an area. If your radar goes off w/o arrows, you just assume there's only one threat. With V1, you have some ability to fear multiple guns and would be more cautious of confirming a couple of spots before you start accelerating.

V1 had a customer testimonial in an AD once that saved his ass by knowing that another threat was ahead...
 

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matt's explanation was pretty good!! It is very hard to explain why the arrows help. I posted a few weeks ago why I would never own anything else. After you have the V1 for a while, you learn it's "behavior." You learn how to distinguish what is a potential threat and what is false by reading the arrows, bogey counters, and signal strength simultaneously.
 

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Valentine one kicks arse
 

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I truly felt the same way you did newbie...I figured I wouldn't spend much on a radar...because if it went off, I should probably slow down regardless.

It got to the point where I knew what areas gave off false alarms, so when my radar would go off around there, I would ignore it. Then I got a speeding ticket in one of those areas.

The next morning I ordered my V1. What a difference...the bogey counter and arrows are incredible. Sure, its expensive, but I think its worth it.

If you are unsure, I say try both the escort and the v1 for a month (they both have money back guarantees, you pay the shipping). I bet you choose the V1.

just my pair of pennies.

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