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APEX ARC-8 Wheel Group Buy

GROUP BUY IS NOW CLOSED!
Although the Group Buy is now closed, most wheels are in stock and ready to ship at our normally competitive price!

To Purchase wheels CLICK HERE


Driving season is fast approaching, and as usual APEX hosts multiple Group Buys in the beginning of the year
This Group Buy is listed on multiple forums: E46 Fanatics, M3Forums, Bimmerforums, E90Post, M3Post, ZPost...
The more members that sign up, the lower the price will be for everyone

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Group Buy Price:

There is no minimum member requirement to receive the 1st tier discount!
Discounts increase as additional members sign up for each size
Group Buy sets can be purchased as any combination of 4 wheels
Discounts are now a simple total of all members for 18" wheels, and separately for 17" wheels
Previously the discounts were calculated on members for each individual size
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18" Group Buy Discount
1 -14 Buyers = $100 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
15-24 Buyers = $150 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
25-30 Buyers = $175 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
31 + Buyers = $200 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*


17" Group Buy Discount
_1 - 9 Buyers = $50 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
10-14 Buyers = $70 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
15 + Buyers = $100 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*



See Group Buy and Shipping* details below...


Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9
21. Adam R. 8.5/9.5
22. Mark W. 9.5/9.5
23. Craig B. 9.5/10
24. Adam A. 9.5/10
25. Gary F. 10/10
26. Wesley B. 9/10
27. Andrew M. 9.5/10
28. Eric H. 9.5/10
29. Ivan O. 8.5/8.5
30. Kevin D. 9/10
31. Joshua B. 8.5/9.5
32. George B. 10/10
33. Shahrad H. 9.5/9.5
34. Eric A. 9.5/9.5
35. Jonathan G. 9.5
36. Jason D. 8.5/8.5
37. Tyler D. 9.5/9.5
38. Ronnie H. 9/10
39. Kevin P. 9.5/9.5
40. Luc D. 8.5/9.5
41. Victor E. 9/10
42. William G. 10/10
43. Robert D. 9/9

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
4. Michael O.
5. Illan L.
6. Carlos R.

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Specifications:





Wheel Details:



Manufacturing process:
All APEX wheels are flow-formed resulting in a light weight, track and street worthy wheel
Flow-forming significantly reduces weight in the barrel by rolling the barrel out into it's final shape using large wheels/disks applying high pressure
This step is the same step that monoblock forged wheels go through to shape their barrels
By doing this, the flow-formed wheel's barrel has the same density and strength as a traditional forged wheel
This significantly reduces rotational mass at the furthest point from the center, which is the most important weight savings area on a wheel.

Strength:
These wheels are fully JWL/VIA certified. Strength testing was done by the VIA in Japan
Don't be fooled by competitors that claim to be certified, but cannot provide registration numbers
There are vendors on this forum selling wheels that are not certified, yet they claim they are. Scary stuff!
CLICK HERE to see all VIA registration numbers

Misc.
Comes with carbon-look APEX center caps
Accepts OEM Roundel center caps
Does not come with valve stems
Installs using your factory lugs or a stud conversion
Accepts all wheel spacers including 5mm while still remaining hub-centric
TPMS compatible

Group Buy Details:



Free Shipping*
Free Shipping is available to members in the 48 mainland states
Alaska, Hawaii, and International members will receive a $75 credit off the actual cost of shipping
non-mainland/international members: please contact us prior to ordering for a shipping quote

Payment and Sign Up:
This Group Buy is now closed!
The last day to sign-up/pay was February 28th 2011. NO late entries, this is a limited time Discount
Payment is made in full at the time of check-out
Wheels will arrive approx 30-45 days after the Group Buy close date. ETA updates will be provided


Discount Tiers
The price you pay at sign up is based on how many members are currently signed up for either 18" or 17" wheels
Normally enough members are already signed up on the unofficial name list, that pricing can be started above the first tier.
The 18" Group buy is starting payment on tier #2, while the 17" Group Buy is starting payment on tier #1
At the close of the Group Buy, everyone's order/payment will be adjusted accordingly if a higher discount tier is reached

Refunds
There are NO refunds on Group Buy orders. Group Buys are special order, which is why payment is taken in advance
Only replacement of defective, or mis-shipped products are available
Your are free to sell your place in line after the close date of the Group Buy
 

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love the arc-8s and am looking for a set of wheels but your site kind of cuts off the pic with all four finishes in it....anyway you can post some pics of the different finishes? thanks in advance
 

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love the arc-8s and am looking for a set of wheels but your site kind of cuts off the pic with all four finishes in it....anyway you can post some pics of the different finishes? thanks in advance
The Gallery plug-in is having issues. When you bring up the image gallery and select a photo, if you click on it again, it will bring up a full sized 800 by XXX pixel image in its own window.

Here's the same photo

 

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Major Group Buy update!

  • The close date of the Group Buy has been extended to Feb 28th
  • The discount structure has been completely changed
  • Far fewer members are required to receive high tier discounts
  • A new $200 tier has been added
  • Now it's just a matter of how many members purchase 18" wheels, and how many purchase 17" wheels

The Group Buys is now officially open for payment!

Click here to join the 18" Group Buy and see all the details: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-Early-Bird-18-Group-Buy_p_126.html

Click here to join the 17x9" Group Buy and see all the details: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-17x9-Group-Buy_p_110.html
 

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In for 4 17x9's!
 

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This looks like a great deal, that's for sure. Just wondering if there is a shop in the OC area where I can check out the wheels in person.

-roarke
 

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This looks like a great deal, that's for sure. Just wondering if there is a shop in the OC area where I can check out the wheels in person.

-roarke
They are a great deal, and this offer ends on the 28th. No shops in the OC area have them on display but we have numerous photos of them on our facebook fan page.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
 

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So Will the 18x9" et42's fit on my stock zhp in the front? Or will I need ~ a 5" spacer to clear the shock/ spring perch?

Also, will the difference between the 8.5" and 9" wheel be noticeable? The weight difference seems negligible for daily driving, Is the difference just going to be tire pricing? Keep in mind I'd like to run a larger tire with around a 3.5" side wall all around. Is this possible with the 9" wheels?

I'd really like to get in on this group buy so help me out people!

Thanks,
Roarke
 

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Roarke,

Your fitment will depend on what tire you want to run. On a stock suspension, technically the wheel will clear the strut tube and you won't have an issue as the 17x9's clear the strut tube on the E46 non-m without issue, and 17's have less strut tube clearance. If you run something like a 245 then you most likely won't need anything up front. If you run a 255 then you'll need a spacer due to how much the sidewall of a tire like that will buldge. The problem with a wide tire like a 255 and a spacer is that on a stock car things get pushed out far.

The rear is not an issue and can handle a 255 no problem.

Below is a photo of a ZHP with 17x9's and 255/40/17 extreme summer tires. The only modification is lowering springs


Below is a photo of a ZHP with 18x9's and 255/35/18, 10mm spacers and camber plates.



If you were to run a 245/35/18 you wouldn't have the same issues. the benefit of going this route on a stock car is that you'd have the right wheels already to handle 255's in the future if you just did some suspension modifications.

-Eddy P


So Will the 18x9" et42's fit on my stock zhp in the front? Or will I need ~ a 5" spacer to clear the shock/ spring perch?

Also, will the difference between the 8.5" and 9" wheel be noticeable? The weight difference seems negligible for daily driving, Is the difference just going to be tire pricing? Keep in mind I'd like to run a larger tire with around a 3.5" side wall all around. Is this possible with the 9" wheels?

I'd really like to get in on this group buy so help me out people!

Thanks,
Roarke
EDIT: a member just picked up 2 sets
 

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I'm kinda confused. The wheels are supposed to be fitted to the 3 series, but I'd need spacers to really get it to fit well. How come the 18x9s aren't et ~32? Seems like everyone needs ~10mm spacers to get them to fit well.
 

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I'm kinda confused. The wheels are supposed to be fitted to the 3 series, but I'd need spacers to really get it to fit well. How come the 18x9s aren't et ~32? Seems like everyone needs ~10mm spacers to get them to fit well.
ET32 would be a terrible fit in the rear for a performance setup. You couldn't fit wide rubber back there.

Spacers are needed when running wide rubber up front. They aren't needed in all circumstances. By using a spacer, you can run the same wheel front and rear, and rotate them to maximize the life of your tread. This is extremely common among members who participate in autocross, HPDEs or racing. If we made a 9" wheel with a high offset for the rear, and another 9" wheel with a slightly lower offset for the front, you could never rotate your setup.

These wheels have all the features wanted by members doing a true performance oriented setup, and not simple daily driving only. If you want to avoid spacers up front you an always run the 8.5" wheel as it will have more strut tube clearance.

The point is if you want to run a lot of rubber, you can't have the same effective offset front and rear. Spacers make it very economical to do this.

Consider what tire you want to run, and what application it will be used for. There's a very good chance that you're worrying about something that won't be an issue for your car.
 

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So would you suggest 8.5's if I don't plan on tracking too often? As opposed to 9's.
Yes, 8.5's would be a much better fitment. You can still run them square to maximize your tire life and keep the cars handling balanced and neutral.

You could run either a 235/40/18 or 245/35/18 and not run into rubbing issues.
 

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As for wheel clearances, keep in mind that the coupes should have a bit more clearance to the fender than the sedans. In particular on a sedan, my 18x9 with 255 Dunlop Z1* did slightly rub the rear fenders with my slightly lowered ride height (with rear passengers over big bumps only) but minimal rolling would take care of this. At stock ride height or with a slightly narrower 255/35-18 tire it probably wouldn't rub at all.

Also, that's my sedan pictured above in post 13. I'm pretty sure I've posted an update at some point but I am no longer running a 10 mm spacer as shown in those pictures. I initially ran this spacer until I realized that I only had a strut clearance issue on one side of the car. Turns out that the adjustable collar for the sway bar end link on my passenger side AST strut needed to be flipped over so that the pinch bolt was located on the inside of the strut and not the outside. Flipping this around opened up a lot of space between the strut and wheel so I dropped down to a 3 mm spacer and then later I lowered the front end another 0.5". I'm pretty sure I could run with no spacer up front now and be just fine although I don't know if you would have as much strut clearance with a stock suspension.
 

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As for wheel clearances, keep in mind that the coupes should have a bit more clearance to the fender than the sedans. In particular on a sedan, my 18x9 with 255 Dunlop Z1* did slightly rub the rear fenders with my slightly lowered ride height (with rear passengers over big bumps only) but minimal rolling would take care of this. At stock ride height or with a slightly narrower 255/35-18 tire it probably wouldn't rub at all.

Also, that's my sedan pictured above in post 13. I'm pretty sure I've posted an update at some point but I am no longer running a 10 mm spacer as shown in those pictures. I initially ran this spacer until I realized that I only had a strut clearance issue on one side of the car. Turns out that the adjustable collar for the sway bar end link on my passenger side AST strut needed to be flipped over so that the pinch bolt was located on the inside of the strut and not the outside. Flipping this around opened up a lot of space between the strut and wheel so I dropped down to a 3 mm spacer and then later I lowered the front end another 0.5". I'm pretty sure I could run with no spacer up front now and be just fine although I don't know if you would have as much strut clearance with a stock suspension.
Thanks for the clarification!

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Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
 

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Blah I don't know if my income tax will get here in time :(
 
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