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Anybody ordering parts from der Vaterland?

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Just wondered if anyone was ordering OE parts from Germany? The dollar is fairly strong against the euro.

In the BMW motorcycle world we sometimes use German vendors. The downside is it's a little of a crapshoot as to what the duty (if any) will be charged. I took a look at an OE leather seat bottom for my 325i and it looked to be about $200 cheaper delivered from overseas.

Does anyone have any experience (pro or con) with doing this?
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VAT is an issue; so is the exchange rate. I was active-duty US military in Germany, and frequently used VAT forms to eliminate the tax, which was around 15 - 19%, depending on which country in which I shopped (Germany at the time was 17%; Luxembourg was the bargain at 15%). When the Euro was introduced, VAT was standardized and remained at something like 17% throughout mainland Europe. The exchange rate went from about $1 = E1.20 to about $1 = E0.80 (the dollar got weaker), but I don't know where either stand today. I left Europe for the final time in 2012, but I was able to purchase several BMW items far cheaper than I would have in the US. Quick example is the convertible windscreen that fits behind the front seats. I paid about $165 for mine, new.

You would have to know the current relative strength of the Euro (I'll look it up later), and I suspect the current European VAT is charged regardless of destination. But I do think you can find items cheaper there--as long as you know the item's Stateside price, you can compare.
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I bought a motorcycle fairing from Germany and since it was being shipped to the US the VAT was waived. When you put an item in the cart with your shipping address, the VAT was removed from the price. Rules may be different for certain countries that aren't in the EU. As of this date a US dollar buys .91 Euro.
I always get my parts from leebmann24.de, much cheaper (compared to local dealerships) and all genuine stuff. They ship regular tracked mail by default
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Anybody selling from Europe or UK to US should deduct the EU/UK sales tax at source when you enter your US shipping address at checkout. The only tax you should have to worry about is US customs import duty, if applicable.

Since you mention Germany explicitly, sales tax there is known as MwSt. It's 19% (It's not standardised across the EU, the post above is incorrect, but it's typically around 20% give or take a few percentage points). To check it's been deducted, compare the prices on the German company site with a random German shipping address to your US address. The German address prices should be 19% higher before shipping costs.
Since you mention Germany explicitly, sales tax there is known as MwSt. It's 19% (
Italy 22% :cautious::confused:
Wow, things HAVE changed in the past few years. To clarify, MwSt. and VAT (Value Added Tax) are the same thing. Not sure when individual countries returned to charging their own percentages, but VAT standardization was implemented when the EU unified. I assume the inclusion of former Eastern Bloc countries drove the change. But if you can avoid paying it, the savings would be considerable.
Wow, things HAVE changed in the past few years. To clarify, MwSt. and VAT (Value Added Tax) are the same thing. Not sure when individual countries returned to charging their own percentages, but VAT standardization was implemented when the EU unified. I assume the inclusion of former Eastern Bloc countries drove the change. But if you can avoid paying it, the savings would be considerable.
They never did standardise. I'm afraid you must have been mistaken.

And, as I said higher up, it's not levied on goods delivered to locations outside the region. It should be deducted at source (ie not present) when you check out your basket as a US customer.
My bad, I thought standardization was a 'selling point' for the Euro, but it's been a long time now. Miss the old days, when we'd cross from Germany to Luxembourg to shop in a small town that otherwise wouldn't be there if there wasn't a difference in VAT. Things got weird, price-wise, when we got the Euro.
My bad, I thought standardization was a 'selling point' for the Euro, but it's been a long time now. Miss the old days, when we'd cross from Germany to Luxembourg to shop in a small town that otherwise wouldn't be there if there wasn't a difference in VAT. Things got weird, price-wise, when we got the Euro.
There was harmonisation rather than standardisation. So member states were/are free to set their own tax rates within agreed bounds. VAT had/has to be a minimum of 15%, for example, (except certain goods/services), to prevent one nation undercutting everyone else (they were looking at you, Luxembourg) and creating abnormal flows when customs restrictions between states were removed.
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