[Mpowered]

Also, you can't really call an Infiniti a rebagded Nissan anymore...the product lines are completely different with the death of the QX4. Heck...the new FX45 is faster than the BMW X5 4.6is and costs about 40,000 dollars less! And it looks awsome! The G35 is a great car...and Infiniti dealers are reknown for their excellent customer service (sadly something that a lot of the BMW dealers are not known for)...you can't go wrong either way! As far as BMW being classier goes? I don't think I agree as much with that statement now...the G35 (especially the coupe) looks just as classy to me!

Too bad the same cars infiniti puts out in the US are badged as Nissan in Japan... So... you really CAN call an Infiniti a rebadged Nissan.

 

[Badger]

jp323i: Actually it is about $30K diference. If you noticed he is from Canada. Fully loaded FX45 here is $69,000 (includes frieght). Fully loaded BMW 4.6is is $97,300 (does not include frieght). Warranties are the same but you are right about the maintenance warranty do that would drop the difference a bit. It should be noted that there are several things you can get on the Infiniti that you can't get on the BMW (DVD Entertainment System, Keyless Go, Intelligent cruise control, Rear view monitor)

 

[Badger]

jp323i: Oops my bad. For some reason I thought he was from Canada. Anywho it is 30K diff here. Not saying you figures were wrong just thought he was from Canada for some reason.

 

[IGotId]

If I had to choose between either, I'd choose the G35 simply because of the lower price. Yeah, it may not have the BMW prestige or the quality, but then again, some people don't like the BMW quality/fit/finish. But since I got my used 2001 330i for $32,000 out the door, and a brand new one costs more than that, I am staying with the BMW. Otherwise, if I was buying new it would be G35 all the way.

i would also probably go w/ the g35c if i had to buy a new car today; $10K is a lot of money.

 

[cRAzYgUy]

the G35 coupe/sedan have both rated higher in safety and driver feedback than the 3 series have. its hard to admit the 3 series have officially been beaten.

:lmao: :lmao: I don't think so in terms of safety. unless you can prove me wrong.

 

[BrokeMyWallet]

FYI, Nissan is not a Japanese car company anymore. Got bought off by Renault many years ago. The CEO is a Brazilian or something.

No more rice jokes, jap scrap talk...not!

Renault owns only 44% of Nissan. Nissan cars are stilled mostly designed in Japan, by Japanese engineers...how is it not a Japanese car company?

 

[cRAzYgUy]

Renault owns only 44% of Nissan. Nissan cars are stilled mostly designed in Japan, by Japanese engineers...how is it not a Japanese car company?

:werd:

 

[jp323i]

jp323i: Actually it is about $30K diference. If you noticed he is from Canada. Fully loaded FX45 here is $69,000 (includes frieght). Fully loaded BMW 4.6is is $97,300 (does not include frieght). Warranties are the same but you are right about the maintenance warranty do that would drop the difference a bit. It should be noted that there are several things you can get on the Infiniti that you can't get on the BMW (DVD Entertainment System, Keyless Go, Intelligent cruise control, Rear view monitor)

I think the reason why you thought he was from Canada was you got him mixed up w/ me, I'm from Canada! :thumbup:

Anyhow, the X5 4.6is comes w/ tons more std features. Both fully loaded, some of the things the 4.6is has that the FX45 still doesn't:

descent control, mechanical centre differential, self-leveling suspension, stability control, front & rear parking sensors, speed-proportional power steering, rear door mounted impact airbags, & sliding load floor.

There are a bunch more, but most of them aren't as significant so I didn't list them. Again, I'm not saying I'd get the X5 4.6is over the FX45 but just pointing out the differences.

 

[andy323ci]

the nhtsa (national highway traffic and safety administration) has tested the g35 and ranked higher in the final rollover rating.

 

[jp323i]

the nhtsa (national highway traffic and safety administration) has tested the g35 and ranked higher in the final rollover rating.

Rollover is 1 component of several (5 total) in their tests. The 3-Series has had excellent results in both NHTSA & IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) tests. In fact, the IIHS rated the 3-Series a "Best Pick".

On the NHTSA site, you can't get G35 results yet but I'll take your word for the rollover resistance rating. :dunno:

 

[NeoE46]

I test drove the G35 the other day. It definitely has excellent accelaration, very strong. The steering was not as precise though. When I first got into the BMW E46, it was easy to control and very natural. With the G35, I could not put the car exactly where I wanted to put it on the twisty roads.

The other problem is that it is Japanese. The body style will probably change in a year or two and while the original may be good, quality in the long run will suffer.

I say E46 all the way!!:thumbup:

 

[xS3x]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com//showthread.php?s=&threadid=66672

 

[babbit]

the nhtsa (national highway traffic and safety administration) has tested the g35 and ranked higher in the final rollover rating.

Well, almost all the new Japanese cars these couple years have better safety ratings than the BMW 3 series. The new accord beats it in every category in all the tests I've seen, and the civic is at least equal to the 3 in terms of safety....but these are new cars, and the 3er was made years ago, so of course it's safety ratings are not the best. But considering it's still above average after all these years shows how good the engineering was. Oh, and both the G35 sedan and coupe got better ratings in the NHTSA( i think it was them) test. But once again, new car vs old car. That's not really fair.

 

[Delirium]

The other problem is that it is Japanese. The body style will probably change in a year or two and while the original may be good, quality in the long run will suffer.

I say E46 all the way!!:thumbup:

Yeah BMW wont change their models on you.. doh! that happened to many of us who bought 323/328's. ANd then another slap in the face with the facelifted 3er's. I was screwed by BMW twice. My car was only the "recent" model for one year!!!!

 

[TheDream21479]

Too bad the same cars infiniti puts out in the US are badged as Nissan in Japan... So... you really CAN call an Infiniti a rebadged Nissan.

They most certainly are not...the US Infiniti lineup is completely different than the Japanese Nissan (and US Nissan) lineup. That was one of the first promises Nissan/Ghosen made with the US buyers..that there will be no more rebadging of cars.

You could argue that the Maxima and the I30 and the 350Z and G35 coupe are the same car. That would be like saying the A4 and the Passat are the same car. Sure they come from the same lineage but they are completely different vehicles.


By the way...the CEO's name is Carlos Ghosen...its amazing what he's done with Nissan in the past 5 years. and as far as Renault owning 44% of Nissan..sure...but Ghosen has total control over what comes out of Nissan...

And as far as the FX45 being ugly...many people say that about the X5 too...how it looks like a REALLLY tall station wagon ... I think the FX45 is awsome looking (so is the X5). And as far as being laughed at...I'm sure the Infiniti board will be laughing...all the way to the bank.

The Honda Element. Based on the success of the Honda Pilot, Odyssey, CRV, Accord, Civic, S2000...have I said enough yet?

Yeah BMW wont change their models on you.. doh! that happened to many of us who bought 323/328's. ANd then another slap in the face with the facelifted 3er's. I was screwed by BMW twice. My car was only the "recent" model for one year!!!!

:werd:

 

[TheDream21479]

Not to hijack this post or anything...but I had to put these up...this thing is NOT ugly to me...It looks way classy to me!

 

[TheDream21479]

rear

 

[ilovebmw]

First of all no it's not a ten thousand dollar diff. NO one buys a car with no options. Its a 4 g diff if you want to put it that way. You're comparing a nicely equipped 330 to a msrp g35c ....r u ok dude. I don't know if you guys really think about 3-4 years later on when your loan or lease is over. 2 Words my friends RESALE VALUE. I ordered a 330ci about a month and half ago, i did test drive a g35 coupe and seriously it wasn't the whole package. The 330ci felt much quicker and more right. BTW are you forgetting the e46 coupe came out in 2000 and the g35c came out in 2003. You just cant compare them anymore, technology changeS daily. It's not the 1990's anymore. One look at the nasty g35 coupe(my preference) and its interior just made me feel wierd about it. My opinion I would never buy a japanese car over 20k. I don't see why people these days actually think its a 10k diff. My 330ci cost 42 without tax, a g35c with same options would cost me 37. That's 5 thousand not 10. Out of door it cost me 44.5 got them to take it down a lil. I love bmw interior at night with the orange and blue lights it's just something else man. One drive in a german car and you'll never go to a japanese, it's a true fact ask any german car owner. I will save much more then 5k when i try to trade my car in or try to sell it. You really have to think about 4 years from now, not only bout the price of it out of door. Would u really pay 41 out of door for a g35c? YOU HAVE TO BE CRAZY!!!!:dunno: :banghead:

 

[TheDream21479]

btw..the FX is not a rebadged Nissan Murano and in fact shares no major components with it...

Interior...
Light years ahead of the X5's design


but this thing is more sport than utility even more so than the X5...and does better off road than the X5

 

[TheDream21479]

One drive in a german car and you'll never go to a japanese, it's a true fact ask any german car owner.

This is probably one person who has never driven an NSX...