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2.5 liter (M54B25) oil pump nut mortality

5.4K views 19 replies 10 participants last post by  TobyB  
#1 · (Edited)
I know it's supposed to never happen on the 2.5L engine, but the oil pump nut came off my m54b25 engine last weekend. This is from a 325 that did see about 8 track days with the raised rev limit (7000 rpm) of the Shark Injector, but it hasn't been on the track for 2 years, and that was about 30,000 miles ago. So I can't chalk this up to high rpm alone.

I pulled the engine and found the nut missing and the sprocket sitting on the un-splined portion of the oil pump shaft. I had two spun rod bearings and an oil filter full of metal filings. I also found this rubber o-ring in the oil pump pickup. Can anyone ID this o-ring? I'm trying to figure out what might have gone wrong.

I thought I'd post and suggest that even 325 owners might want to consider red loctite and safety wire for their oil pump nuts, even though "they never do that".

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#4 ·
Oil pump nuts were never an issue until the (then) new generation of twin cam 6 cylinder engines. Starting with the M50-S52 and the M52 TU-M54 engines.

Since then ANY car possibly going to Auto-X or HPDE gets the safety wire and/or the bend over locking tabs to secure the nut to the oil pump..

Sorry for your issue....
 
#7 ·
Were you making full use of your rev range? I track quite a bit and I'm super paranoid, so I just short-shift at 6K even if I'm in that awkward situation where I wouldn't have to shift for the upcoming corner, as I'd just hit redline right before hard braking
 
#8 ·
Yes, the point of the Shark Injector for me was the raised rev limit so I could avoid shifting into 5th on the back straight at Watkins Glen. It was significantly quicker when I could stay in 4th, and I was told the harmonics of the 2.5 were not as severe as the 3.0, so no worries. Live and learn. I'm still not sure that was the issue, because that was 2 years ago.
 
#9 ·
I think you are misinformed, the reason for the nut issues is the lack of a chain tensioner. This causes severe chain slack when RPMs change quickly (as they would during a track day). The extreme forces from the chain whipping around eventually backs off the nut. The proper fix is to install a chain tensioner: Upgraded M52TU/M54 Oil Pump & Tensioner
 
#16 ·
I think you are misinformed, the reason for the nut issues is the lack of a chain tensioner. This causes severe chain slack when RPMs change quickly (as they would during a track day). The extreme forces from the chain whipping around eventually backs off the nut. The proper fix is to install a chain tensioner: Upgraded M52TU/M54 Oil Pump & Tensioner
I mostly agree. But consider this:
E28 M5 & E30 M3 are bereft of a lower (oil) chain tensioner. Slop and jump around (chain vibration) all the time. I've yet to see one come loose that was properly attached.

Also when at the track; There's additional forces at play. Heavy acceleration and very hard braking. If no pan baffle is installed there can be momentary starvation of the pump. When the oil resumes through the pump (could be a 500Ms gap) there's a shock factor when the oil hits the rotor/stator.

I had a V/G customers 1994 540i in here last year. Heavy leak from the lower oil pan. So we pulled the pan to change the gasket. We were shocked when we saw the nose section of the oil pump and the nut (snapped just behind the thin nut) sitting in the pan. We gasped.

Pulled a main and a rod bearing for inspection. All was just fine. The gear was sitting loosely on the splines. Imagine that...! One good deer stop and it would have been game over for that engine.
P.S. The pan, pump etc. were all original.
 
#15 ·
Since this is not my regular track car, I suspect that at a minimum a safety wire + loctite should now be good for the street. But "once bitten, twice shy", I ordered the 4-bolt shaft from Bimmerworld for my replacement engine so I don't have to think about it.
Good for you, I consider the safety wire more of an indication that a bolt unlooses and not a shoot and forget means of securing. Also, a tensioner isn't that expensive, but with the 4 bolt shaft you will be golden
 
#19 ·
When I break engine things on the race car,
it tends to happen on tracks with long straights
when I get the gearing just a bit short.

Harmonic vibrations seem to be worst when the engine's
held at maximum RPM and NOT at maximum loading.

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Ouch, seen that a few times, Thankfully not personally.
Yeah the whole " What differential for XX track."
My biggest issue was The Glen. It was almost impossible for me to get it ALL correct. It was all fine except the short chute between 8 & 9. Rev the piss outta 3rd. or down low in 4th. Only to have to downshift again in a couple of seconds for the left-hander back onto Nascar... The issue would have to be solved inside the trans and not @ the diff...

Second order harmonics are a bitch.