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Old 06-09-2014, 11:36 AM   #21
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It does make it easier to liquidate more appropriate amounts though when you do have some invested. So say I want to liquidate $1000 real quick, I can actually get close to $1000 and not $1400.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:58 AM   #22
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It's time to buy apple stock is what it means....
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:07 PM   #23
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Essentially every shareholder post split gets a 7x dividend increase. Apple currently pays a quarterly cash dividend of $3.29 per common share.
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:45 PM   #24
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Essentially every shareholder post split gets a 7x dividend increase. Apple currently pays a quarterly cash dividend of $3.29 per common share.
no you don't. do you know how a split or dividends work? the EPS will be divided by 7.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:09 PM   #25
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no you don't. do you know how a split or dividends work? the EPS will be divided by 7.
Apparently I don't. Can you elaborate? Thx.
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Apparently I don't. Can you elaborate? Thx.
read my post.
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Apparently I don't. Can you elaborate? Thx.
Think about it. Why would they split the stock and keep the same dividend?

If they kept it the same and ignored the split, they'd be paying out 7x dividends
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:23 PM   #28
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Think about it. Why would they split the stock and keep the same dividend?

If they kept it the same and ignored the split, they'd be paying out 7x dividends
Ok...I get it now. Wishful thinking on my part.
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I got a notice in my Fidelity account for FLCSX, so I guess it was related to this?
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I got a notice in my Fidelity account for FLCSX, so I guess it was related to this?
Not likely at all. More likely some fund information was posted and the notice is for you to read it.
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Ok...I get it now. Wishful thinking on my part.
that would be nice but it is just a reassignment of share price and shares. only impact will be the psychological one that people view the stock as more affordable. who knows if it is a good decision or not. i think some were hoping to see apple top 1000.
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People thinking along those lines have no business investing. They will enjoy their money more in Las Vegas if they think it's cool to see Apple go over $1000 per share. It's an arbitrary value. Any public company could go over $1000 if it didn't have many shares relative to it's size.


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People thinking along those lines have no business investing. They will enjoy their money more in Las Vegas if they think it's cool to see Apple go over $1000 per share. It's an arbitrary value. Any public company could go over $1000 if it didn't have many shares relative to it's size.


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well a high stock price does indicate higher value and with apple's image that it is a premium brand having a high share price makes it appear better and more attractive to own. 7:1 split is pretty unusual, but apple for sure wanted to keep its share price higher.
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People thinking along those lines have no business investing. They will enjoy their money more in Las Vegas if they think it's cool to see Apple go over $1000 per share. It's an arbitrary value. Any public company could go over $1000 if it didn't have many shares relative to it's size.


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The average retail investor is generally woefully uneducated on investing and most of them have no business investing in individual companies in today's market. However, the more rare "huge success stories" keep them coming into the market and tossing their hard earned money around pretty much blindly.
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well a high stock price does indicate higher value and with apple's image that it is a premium brand having a high share price makes it appear better and more attractive to own. 7:1 split is pretty unusual, but apple for sure wanted to keep its share price higher.
A higher price reflects a higher P/B, not a higher value. Apple's relatively low P/E makes it appear more attractive to own than many stocks, but I've never heard a professional investor say "buy stocks that cost more, because they have a higher value or are more attractive to own".
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A higher price reflects a higher P/B, not a higher value. Apple's relatively low P/E makes it appear more attractive to own than many stocks, but I've never heard a professional investor say "buy stocks that cost more, because they have a higher value or are more attractive to own".
no, a professional investor will likely not say that, but price does reflect on its image. also, people investing smaller amounts of money are less likely to buy a higher priced stock. this makes higher priced stocks on average less volatile and generally goes along with being a more stable company. those with more investing experience will look at the bigger picture and share price is a part of that.
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no, a professional investor will likely not say that, but price does reflect on its image. also, people investing smaller amounts of money are less likely to buy a higher priced stock. this makes higher priced stocks on average less volatile and generally goes along with being a more stable company. those with more investing experience will look at the bigger picture and share price is a part of that.
VXAPL has been higher than the VXGS and the VIX for pretty much all of the past 5 years, even though it has traded about 10x the share price of GS. I could give plenty of other examples, but price generally has little correlation with volatility. There are about 1,000 indicators I would look at in determining whether or not to invest money in a company before share price would come into the picture (penny stocks excluded, but I'm speaking of non-OTC companies).

p.s. The retail investor has next-to-no impact on volatility of largely traded stocks in today's markets.
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Old 06-09-2014, 03:12 PM   #38
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Calm down calm down.... This happened to me a couple years ago....

Sirius went from 36 down to 2


My broker Detz told me to buy more cause it 18/1 split

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18:1 split
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I checked this morning and thought it was a typo

Apple’s Share Price Is No Mistake, Reflects 7-for-1 Stock Split

AppleAAPL -1.93% closed Friday at $645.57. It will open Monday around $92.

Nothing’s changed about the business, and Apple remains the world’s most valuable company by market capitalization. But Monday will the first day Apple trades after its seven-for-one stock split.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/06/...1-stock-split/
Haha, just looked at my account...Said I lost $47000 because the share price is 93 but the share quantity remained the same. Glad I read this post first otherwise I'd have a heart attack.
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