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Old 01-15-2020, 02:19 PM   #1
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E46 vs E90

I may be in the running for a 2006 330XI e/w 6 speed with 32k on it for mileage.
Its gray with a black leather interior.
I've done the research on E90 problems but the 6 speed is tough to pass up. What would be a reasonable offer for this car with that low mileage ? $6800-7000 ?

Any thoughts out there ?
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Old 01-17-2020, 06:57 AM   #2
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Thank you. That goes for everyone. I believe I'm next in line.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:55 AM   #3
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DMAX if and when the woman decides to sell it if I don't pull the trigger I'll let you know..................... 35 minutes north of Boston is where the car is located and it's a cream puff.
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DMAX if and when the woman decides to sell it if I don't pull the trigger I'll let you know..................... 35 minutes north of Boston is where the car is located and it's a cream puff.
Thank you!

I found 'my' car, sort of, but it's red. I can't. Nothing personal about red people, but after 14 years with green, I'm tired of being ashamed of my car...I see the looks of people wondering why I'd want green. I couldn't do that with red.

I am looking at up to 2016's now that I've given up on ever finding the perfect car with NA engine.
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Old 01-18-2020, 08:26 AM   #5
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So, this is a 330xi with a manual transmission? (the auto is a 6-speed as well) 32,000 miles? And a creampuff.

Buy it, don't hesitate regardless of the price. That car is very rare.

I've owned my E90 since new. Just passed 386,000 miles. They are tanks. 2006 E90's with the N52 have 6 problems (1) water pump and thermostat; (2) Oil filter housing gasket - what BMW doesn't; (3) Valve cover gasket - what BMW doesn't); (4) Oil pan gasket - what BMW doesn't; (5) coolant return hose; and (6) the plastic hose bib on the head-side of the t-stat water hose. The xi is a bit more maintenance intensive since once the oil pan gasket really leaks (it'll seep first for a long time), the front drive train goes through the oil pan and the drive shaft will need replacement probably north of 250,000 miles. But the WP/t-stat is a $500 DIY. The valve cover is a $100 DIY if you are careful and don't break the PCV hose. The OFHG is a $20 DIY. The coolant return line has an updated better part, or the plastic line can be swapped with 5/16th aluminum pipe. The t-stat hose bib can be replaced with a $15 aluminum aftermarket part and a 1-hour DIY. E90 Post has an excellent DIY section. Trust me, I know my **** when it comes to N52-powered E90's.

Again, go get the car today. Bring cash. You're in the ballpark I'd say regarding the price. Did I mention to go get it today and bring cash with you?

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Thanks ! I researched all the issues with the E90 as you stated so waiting to hear what the woman wants to do.................. as you stated " It's a 6 speed manual,very rare and tough to find.
All the Best !
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Thanks ! I researched all the issues with the E90 as you stated so waiting to hear what the woman wants to do.................. as you stated " It's a 6 speed manual,very rare and tough to find.
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If she's even thinking of selling it, seriously, go get the cash. People react to greenbacks. If she puts that car on BAT she'll get $20K for it.
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Ok, gotta say-

The N52 engine is kinda cool.
The electronics in the E90 ARE better.

But the only E90 I could ever see looking at in the driveway on a daily
basis is the wagon. And that's only because I wouldn't have to look at the nose.

I predict the E90 will become the E21 of the 2002 world-
'Look! I stuffed an N52 in my 323!'

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I may be in the running for a 2006 330XI e/w 6 speed with 32k on it for mileage.
Its gray with a black leather interior.
I've done the research on E90 problems but the 6 speed is tough to pass up. What would be a reasonable offer for this car with that low mileage ? $6800-7000 ?

Any thoughts out there ?
Are your sure itís a MT? Seen pics of the manual shifter? Plenty of BMW listings that say MT but are really an automatic.
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(5) coolant return hose; and (6) the plastic hose bib on the head-side of the t-stat water hose.
Can you post the DIYs for these 2 repairs?
I'd like to learn more about them, and how complex they are.
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A heck of a find but not worth anywhere near $6K, it's a first production year model, rust belt vehicle and rubber/plastic degrades whether you drive it or not.
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Old 01-19-2020, 10:36 AM   #13
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you are probably right but the car came up from South Carolina and it's garaged thru the New England winters. I agree with you on the 1st year of production (E90),rubber & plastic don't last as long just sitting in a garage.
If & when the time comes I'll take a look,drive and go from there.
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I think you'll love the car. I've had several E90s all N52 and the maintenance is much less than any of my E46s.
I was crazy and just bought a 2006 330i MT with over 200k miles on it - from an awful owner. But it had all the options I wanted and I needed a winter car.
Mine does need work though. But the engine got 34.5mpg on the 500 mile trip home.
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Can you post the DIYs for these 2 repairs?
I'd like to learn more about them, and how complex they are.
Hose bib:

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1618232

Coolant hoses. The return line is discussed in this DIY:


https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=936250

Both are my DIYs I posted at E90 Post. The return line is easy. Just remove the intake snout (2 Torx screws). Drain a little bit of the coolant. Carefully remove the hose off the top radiator hose; you can break the little nipple it attaches to.

The t-stat hose requires making sure you don't leave broken plastic in the hose.
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you are probably right but the car came up from South Carolina and it's garaged thru the New England winters. I agree with you on the 1st year of production (E90),rubber & plastic don't last as long just sitting in a garage.
If & when the time comes I'll take a look,drive and go from there.
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My '06 (first year) E90 is 13+ years old and 387,000 miles. I've not had to replace any rubber parts except the driver's door seal because of my ass rubbing on it, not because it degraded. I did do the hoses back in 2014, but all were in good shape. Plastic on the E90 is much better than the other BMWs I've owned and own. The interior coverings can peel a bit, my car is not that bad.
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I have a 1976 Cadillac Eldorado conv that has 42k miles on her. Most of the rubber is original and in great shape. I have replaced one fuel line so far. As long as the car is garage kept and climate controlled I see no reason while rubber should degrade that bad. That said, I am new to BMW maybe it is a know BMW problem.
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I may be in the running for a 2006 330XI e/w 6 speed with 32k on it for mileage.
Its gray with a black leather interior.
I've done the research on E90 problems but the 6 speed is tough to pass up. What would be a reasonable offer for this car with that low mileage ? $6800-7000 ?

Any thoughts out there ?

I think your price is good. Maybe a bit more, $7500. I found a 330iC with a 6-spd with more miles, and in California, for about $6000. I didn't buy it because I found that I can do the E93 for my price tolerance. For the E93, the consensus seems to be that you should steer clear of the 335 because the turbos turn out to be a bit of a weak point.

I'm confused, by the way. The 330xi is still an E46, isn't it. If you want the 6-spd, I'd not hesitate to get a car with 32,000 miles. The E46 and E90 are a bit of an apples & oranges comparison.

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I'm confused, by the way. The 330xi is still an E46, isn't it. If you want the 6-spd, I'd not hesitate to get a car with 32,000 miles.
in 2006 they only made coupe and convertible E46s, the next gen sedans started production.

Edit, sorry didn't notice it was you JD. I'm sure you know that. but guess bmw did use the same 330Xi designation for this early sedan as E46s.
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in 2006 they only made coupe and convertible E46s, the next gen sedans started production.

Edit, sorry didn't notice it was you JD. I'm sure you know that. but guess bmw did use the same 330Xi designation for this early sedan as E46s.
Those early e9x's used the N52B30, so they really don't have any relations to the E46 at all.
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