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Old 01-10-2020, 01:04 AM   #21
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Get an ELM-327 module from eBay or Amazon for something like $10, certainly less than $20, and an app for your phone for $10 that pulls P-codes. You can have a scan tool for under $30 that can give graphs of all sorts of things.
errr, yeah... I admit, I have that, too, now that you mention it...

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Old 01-10-2020, 05:19 AM   #22
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I bought this one when I bought the car. The iCarSoft i190 for BMW. I have added OBDFusion, Torque pro, EML327 wifi adapter and OBD AutoDoctor for the laptop since. But this initial one is great for just plugging in and scrolling through the entire datastream. I keep it in the glove.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:35 AM   #23
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yeah that's probably the best thing. i have a laptop with PA soft and INPA (thanks bali) but nothing that stays in the car and fits in the glovebox.
an Asus eeePc fits perfectly into the glovebox
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Old 01-10-2020, 07:41 AM   #24
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If you want to go beyond OBDFusion, I'd suggest a laptop with BMW software. I bought one on eBay for something like $400. It was wiped and reloaded with only the necessary software.

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I DO carry an older XP netbook in the trunk. It's just nice to have there.

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an Asus eeePc fits perfectly into the glovebox

yeah it's hard to beat a laptop for flexibility. i'm not crazy about the micro laptops so i think i'll just keep a dell rugged 12" in the trunk. maybe can get a beat up used one for under 500, and they look quite serviceable:






** but maybe not fireproof

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Old 01-11-2020, 02:13 PM   #25
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Long story short I was playing around with my new Foxwell scanner today and now the car won't start.
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Then I had some EWS problems and had codes that the unit read, which was good. I ended up replacing the EWSIII antennae and I thought at this point I needed to resync/realign the EWS to DME. My car was working at this point, and I now know this was not needed. but I didn't know, so I did it.

It would not start after I tried to Sync/align the EWS to DME. In fact the tool gave me an error message and I thought nothing of it at first. I have contacted Foxwell and they have been responsive with no fix yet. Since then I borrowed another scanner to do the sync/align and get my car up and running. I tried to upgrade to v8.3 of the BMW SW and tried it again. It broke my car a second time.
foxwell/schwaben can trigger EWS to immobilize the car? hoping someone with more experience can clarify because otherwise it seems like a convenient tool.
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Old 01-15-2020, 08:52 PM   #26
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yeah very happy with the rugged dell laptop for this purpose. i wouldn't deliberately run it over like they did in one of the review videos, but it's nice to have a computer that can easily survive abuse in a garage environment. i can use it with gloves and wash it off easily with soap in the sink. and the screen works well in direct sunlight.

**but bear in mind that a used laptop like this for $400-500 will not be so waterproof/impervious as when it was new at $4000 .. here's the one where they run it over:


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Old 01-15-2020, 11:46 PM   #27
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For fuel trims etc, i use ELM327 Bluetooth + Torque pro android smart phone app.
With this software bundle, i can do lot of things with E46. For example coding is easy with Carly or NCS Expert.
Inpa and DIS are the 2 best softwares i know for E46 fault code scanning. INPA is quite nice also with livedata.
If you are not familiar with DIS, it is basically more advanced software compared to INPA. It can for example give throttle for car and do advanced fault diagnostics, and give repair paths.
DIS is also very good, because you can read all modules with just 1 click and get list of all fault codes from all your modules. For English, naturally..*
DIS, INPA and NCS are tools from that time when E46 was new. Those softwares are BMW professional tools. Not intended for different brands or universal testers, but just for your E46..

Cost including laptop + 4 dvd software bundle+cable was under $100.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:30 AM   #28
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Inpa and DIS are the 2 best softwares i know for E46 fault code scanning. INPA is quite nice also with livedata.
If you are not familiar with DIS, it is basically more advanced software compared to INPA. It can for example give throttle for car and do advanced fault diagnostics, and give repair paths.
DIS is also very good, because you can read all modules with just 1 click and get list of all fault codes from all your modules.
where is the best place to start with DIS? ** it seems like there are several versions - DIS v44 v57 Easy DIS?

for working on E46 only is that better than ISTA (https://forum.e46fanatics.com/showth...hp?t=1227470)?

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I bought bundle from ebay which was 4 dvd discs, easy next next setup.
I have ista too, but i dont like it so much
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thanks i am thinking of trying ebay for this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Mini-IN...n/301352241817


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Preconfigured EDIABAS 6.4.7 with data through 2008, Preconfigured EDIABAS 7.3.0 with data through Dec 2017

EDIABAS includes (just a partial listing):
INPA
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NFS (New Flash System)
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EDIABAS 6.4.3 CD - .ISO file (optional installation method)
EDIABAS 6.4.5 CD - .ISO file (optional installation method)

DIS and Progman versions:
DIS v44
DIS v57**
SSS Progman v32**
TIS v12/2007 (This is pre-installed in all our DIS offerings (for BMW and Mini), it is not standalone!)
pss-autosoft "EasyInstall***8482;" utility programs to configure, test and verify system settings ...

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thanks i am thinking of trying ebay for this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-Mini-IN...n/301352241817
Yep, you will also need cable between laptop and car.
It was maybe 5-6 years ago i bought my software/cable bundle from Romania. Price was approx 30-40 including cable.
I dont know if he still sells kits or not.
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Old 01-18-2020, 10:38 AM   #32
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Just be wary of viruses! The first thing they do is tell you to disable any virus checker. As long as you dedicate a machine to it (or vm) and keep it off your internal network there isn't much harm.

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Old 01-18-2020, 10:53 AM   #33
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Just be wary of viruses! The first thing they do is tell you to disable any virus checker. As long as you dedicate a machine to it (or vm) and keep it off your internal network there isn't much harm.

yes i do hope people are careful with those old laptops running xp. the advantage of virtualization is the snapshot. that lets you save the working config, so you can recover later without calling bali for help.

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Old 01-24-2020, 06:23 AM   #34
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The simple/cheap readers basically only read the engine computer and give the P codes mandated by the OBD-II. These readers will not read the ABS, Airbag, HVAC, LCM, KZE, etc. For those other modules you need a BMW specific reader. For computer based readers you want INPA, GT1 or ISTA. For handheld I recommend the Foxwell NT510, 520 PRO or 530 with the BMW module. They are on sale right now from $155. Additional auto brand personality modules can be purchased for $40 (I think).
here's some good info on the additional features you get from the bmw specific scanners. foxwell/schwaben gets the best reviews, but some reports of problems after clearing EWS codes. hoping someone can comment on that.

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For BMW-specific scanners, I use Carly, BMW Scanner 1.4, and INPA.

DIS and friends (SSS Progman) is a steaming pile of software poo, IMHO.
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Old 02-01-2020, 03:03 AM   #36
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You should check out the autel brand, they have great OBD scanners. I also use them, Autel Scanner MD802 to be specific.
my independent here uses the autel. seems like a popular choice for professional mechanics, but not cheap.
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