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Old 03-26-2020, 05:53 PM   #21
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Just searched on YouTube and seen this video where the guy simply removes the fabric.



Is that the way to go? Will it look cheesy?

Has anyone done this with a tan interior and how does it look? Any pics?

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So after reading everyone's reply, it appears that NO ONE simply removed the fabric as the dude in the video?
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So after reading everyone's reply, it appears that NO ONE simply removed the fabric as the dude in the video?
Holy crap, that is brilliant! Gonna try that today on an already sagging pillar and see how it looks on my sand beige interior. Never liked that cloth anyway.

Edit: welp, the residual foam backing under the sand beige cloth is a very light yellowish color. Does NOT look good after fabric peeled off!
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:29 PM   #23
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So after reading everyone's reply, it appears that NO ONE simply removed the fabric as the dude in the video?
I pulled the fabric off my right side C-pillar when it started sagging. I actually popped off the plastic panel and peeled off the fabric rather than trying to peel it off in place.

I plan to remove the adhesive and foam residue and try to match it to the gray of the rest of the interior with some SEM interior paint.
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So after reading everyone's reply, it appears that NO ONE simply removed the fabric as the dude in the video?
Yeah I did that on all of my pillars. It releases cleaner if you lightly heat it (heat gun or even hair dryer will do). Looks fine to me.
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Old 03-26-2020, 09:42 PM   #25
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My A pillars looked the same Bali. Just gnarly yellowed plastic.
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You need to remove the pillars to get the fabric right, mostly because you are going to want to wrap it around the edges.

I have used this and it works well. I don't have 10 years on it, but certainly more than a month or so:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would not reuse fabric. I would buy new fabric that is a reasonable match from an online vendor that sells real auto headliner fabric. The actual headliner has foam, pillar fabric does not. The most important factor is stretchiness!!!

As for glue "showing through", this may be operator error, or just crap old fabric. The most important thing about gluing is that you have to spray both fabric and pillar, then wait until it is no longer wet. This is so critical. Then you adhere it. You get bleed-through when you saturate the fabric or pillar and connect them.
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All of that said, and even though I had the fabric, adhesive, and some experience, I still had a pro do it, because it sucks to do...
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That's amazing that Elmer's glue works here and holds in the heat. BTW, someone said it well. This is not a glue problem. There is a thin layer of foam between the fabric and the plastic pillar trim. That foam disintegrates into foam sand. So either you saturate the foam with enough glue that the foam becomes hard and part of the glue which attaches to the plastic trim, or you remove the foam and glue something directly to the plastic trim. The glue is not failing from BMW, it's the foam that glue was attached to that simply falls to tiny grains. Like trying to glue to a layer of flour over something...
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All of that said, and even though I had the fabric, adhesive, and some experience, I still had a pro do it, because it sucks to do...
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I will remove all six pillars on my facelift coupe and either paint or wrap them. Screw this cloth nonsense.

SEM interior paint color chart: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...source=sh/x/im
Going to search our forum to see if anyone found a color match to sand beige.
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I think I will remove all three pillars on my facelift coupe and either paint or wrap them. Screw this cloth nonsense.
Totally agree. At some point, new pillars are going to be NLA, and upholsterers can't recover them satisfactorily, so IMO we need to figure out a paint solution if we're going to make these look acceptable long-term.
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Just searched on YouTube and seen this video where the guy simply removes the fabric.



Is that the way to go? Will it look cheesy?

Has anyone done this with a tan interior and how does it look? Any pics?

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Don't do this. The only way to fix the problem correctly is.

1. Find an automotive upholstery shop that can rewrap them (often expensive and difficult quality control). You aren't going to be able to glue the original fabric back correctly yourself.
2. Find replacement A, B, C pillars in the correct color for your car.
Usually you can get away with salvaged and used parts for many jobs but this is not one of them.

A and C pillars are not difficult to replace. B pillars can be kind of a pain in the ass but much easier on the sedan than the coupe in my opinion. Just remember to disconnect the battery for the A pillar replacement as there are armed airbags in there.

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One consideration on changing the pillars from fabric covered to hard plastic is the acoustics. You'll notice a bit more noise from these and they are up at ear level where that will maximize reflections. If your hearing is good enough to notice the difference in noise from your sunroof shade closed, to open where its now a sound reflector down on you, you'll notice the pillars. So if you can find a soft rubberized paint or stick with a fabric you'll preserve the remarkable quietness of these cars.
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You need to remove the pillars to get the fabric right, mostly because you are going to want to wrap it around the edges.

I have used this and it works well. I don't have 10 years on it, but certainly more than a month or so:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would not reuse fabric. I would buy new fabric that is a reasonable match from an online vendor that sells real auto headliner fabric. The actual headliner has foam, pillar fabric does not. The most important factor is stretchiness!!!

As for glue "showing through", this may be operator error, or just crap old fabric. The most important thing about gluing is that you have to spray both fabric and pillar, then wait until it is no longer wet. This is so critical. Then you adhere it. You get bleed-through when you saturate the fabric or pillar and connect them.

Have you ever tried foam backed fabric on the pillars?


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Today I pulled off the fabric from the A, B, C pillar covers in my facelift coupe with sand beige interior. The pillar covers now have a light yellow-white cloth-ish surface. I’ll remove them and just paint with a matching SEM color. Attached nude photos of pillar covers.
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Today I pulled off the fabric from the A, B, C pillar covers in my facelift coupe with sand beige interior. The pillar covers now have a light yellow-white cloth-ish surface. I’ll remove them and just paint with a matching SEM color. Attached nude photos of pillar covers.
Yes! Post pics of the result! Thanks for exploring this Bali.
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I've removed all the pillar covers and peeled off the loose outer cloth leaving the foam still attached.
Now looking for the right SEM paint color to shoot them. This thread mentions Sandstone and Santa Fe.
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=645344

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I'll post pics once I test spray something to check color match.
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A full set of new sand beige pillar covers from ECS Tuning is only $517.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...51168238963kt/
So....there's that.
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If you guys think $517 is a lot for a set of pillar covers, just check out the price of the black set for sedans.

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