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Old 02-22-2010, 11:27 PM   #21
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I find it so funny that people ask the same questions that have already been answered a bajillion times.
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Old 02-22-2010, 11:28 PM   #22
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OK an article written over 5 years ago by a Magazine?
Scores of new evidence has come out in the last 6 years.

It's easy to debunk crazy conspiracy theories, debunk the hundreds of Architects and Engineers.
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Honestly....seriously...honestly...

You guys think buildings fall down like that?

Symmetrically, straight down, in on themselves at the center with minimal structural damage at what physics tells us is "free fall speed" achieved from zero resistance? Dozens of eye witness accounts of explosions and the bottom floors breaking out before the top floors. Hundreds of professional engineers that back this up with nothing to gain but everything to lose?

Come on... seriously?
go back to school and get a degree in common sense... er i mean mechanical engineering and then you will understand why you conspiracy theorists are complete dipshits.
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OK an article written over 5 years ago by a Magazine?
Scores of new evidence has come out in the last 6 years.

It's easy to debunk crazy conspiracy theories, debunk the hundreds of Architects and Engineers.
True, but the argument you presented is also from 5 years ago. You keep citing "hundreds" of engineers and architects, but you have yet to reference these sources. Are you familiar with Occam's razor?

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go back to school and get a degree in common sense... er i mean mechanical engineering and then you will understand why you conspiracy theorists are complete dipshits.
uhh, common sense would tell you otherwise, a building collapsing at freefall, demolition speed? (tower 7)!

I'm guessing you haven't watched the video and listened to the "idiot" engineers and architects right.

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Old 02-22-2010, 11:36 PM   #27
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go back to school and get a degree in common sense... er i mean mechanical engineering and then you will understand why you conspiracy theorists are complete dipshits.
Molten channels of flowing metal and steel, like lava.

Molten steel found 7 stories underground still burning almost 3 months later.

Airplane fuel does not burn hot enough to do that and not for over 2 months.

Thermite found in all buildings including Building 7

I'm not a conspiracy theorists and I'm not an expert, but I look at the facts.

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Old 02-22-2010, 11:36 PM   #28
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True, but the argument you presented is also from 5 years ago. You keep citing "hundreds" of engineers and architects, but you have yet to reference these sources. Are you familiar with Occam's razor?
YES! From my favorite show...

Patrick Jane!

Easiest solution is the right one. Controlled demolition and thermite makes sense to me!

Google 1,3-diphenylpropane

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YES! From my favorite show...

Patrick Jane!

Easiest solution is the right one. Controlled demolition and thermite makes sense to me!
There is no paper trail for the purchase, installation, and man power responsible for executing such an elaborate scheme. There is not a single leak, a single witness, or a single piece of evidence supporting your claim. Furthermore, a controlled demolition would not accelerate the free fall, thus voiding the argument.
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Some things point towards an "inside job" but it's really hard for me to believe that an operation of this size could be kept secret. Lots of people would have know about this, at least one after so many years would have started talking about it by now.
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There is no paper trail for the purchase, installation, and man power responsible for executing such an elaborate scheme. There is not a single leak, a single witness, or a single piece of evidence supporting your claim. Furthermore, a controlled demolition would not accelerate the free fall, thus voiding the argument.
You can't accelerate a free fall past gravity's force. A controlled demo would remove friction and any pathway to restrict a falling object, causing slow down.

I'm not able to tell you who, how or why, but I know there is MUCH more to this than people think.
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Molten channels of flowing metal and steel, like lava.

Molten steel found 7 stories underground still burning almost 3 months later.

Airplane fuel does not burn hot enough to do that and not for over 2 months.

Thermite

I'm not a conspiracy theorists and I'm not an expert, but I look at the facts.

If you can't engage in a mature conversation, let me know, and I'll help you pack your bags.
it will never be a mature conversation, because those of you who believe that it was a conspiracy have the engineering intellect of a 5th grader. here is a presentation by my college adviser: http://www.scifidimensions.com/Oct01/Collapse_of_WTC.pdf


if you want to believe the hype of loony, attention seeking theorists go ahead. it just makes you look silly when trying to dispute basic undisputed engineering principles that can be shown on the back of an envelope.
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You can't accelerate a free fall past gravity's force. A controlled demo would remove friction and any pathway to restrict a falling object, causing slow down.

I'm not able to tell you who, how or why, but I know there is MUCH more to this than people think.
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I'm not able to tell you who, how or why...
And it's painfully obvious.
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it will never be a mature conversation, because those of you who believe that it was a conspiracy have the engineering intellect of a 5th grader. here is a presentation by my college adviser: http://www.scifidimensions.com/Oct01/Collapse_of_WTC.pdf


if you want to believe the hype of loony, attention seeking theorists go ahead. it just makes you look silly when trying to dispute basic undisputed engineering principles that can be shown on the back of an envelope.
OK.... The towers were built to withstand a hit from a 707 traveling 600 MPHs by John Skilling

How did Building 7 fall down then? Ask your teach to answer that one

None of his explanations can apply to the PERFECT collapse of Building 7

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And it's painfully obvious.
Can you explain to everyone here EXACTLY how AIDS kills people down to the cell/atom level? No?

Do you believe AIDS kills people?

Explain how

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I cant believe more people don't question this:



debris from the neighboring WTC building, gimme a fvcking break!
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Ok JonJon, my agreeing with you is getting a little creepy... you are spot in every post in this thread!

From the very moment I woke up on 9/11, I thought back to Pearl Harbor and other instance in our history that we were "attacked" by the perfect enemy to retaliate upon. It all seemed a little too... convenient if that is the right word. The one main FACT that I have seen hundreds if not thousands of times is the collapse of the main WTC buildings. They did not collapse, they were demolished with explosives. It was as obvious the day I saw it as it is today, those buildings were blown up from the inside, and I don't care what anyone says about it, that is what I saw with my own eyes.
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man theres a lot of guys on bush's nuts in this thread.

you have to be really ignorant, or stupid, probably the latter to think this wasnt a conspiracy...
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