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Old 05-01-2017, 09:25 AM   #61
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^enjoy your fresh shifting experience!
LOL, thanks. So far it's made the car 10x more fun!
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:57 PM   #62
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How much of this can be done from above? Shifter lever and top bushing/plastic cup only?
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:49 AM   #63
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How much of this can be done from above? Shifter lever and top bushing/plastic cup only?
You are absolutely correct.
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Old 05-05-2017, 08:16 PM   #64
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You are absolutely correct.
How do you get the lever out if you can't get to the retaining clip under it?
There is no room from above.
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:50 AM   #65
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How do you get the lever out if you can't get to the retaining clip under it?
There is no room from above.
There is no clip under the cup, just one on the shifter rod that you can get to from underneath without removing all the exhaust and stuff. You can turn the cup clockwise from up-top while pulling up on the shifter lever. That's how I did it. One hand with a screwdriver, the other pulling up on the lever.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:10 AM   #66
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How do you get the lever out if you can't get to the retaining clip under it?
There is no room from above.
You can do it - first you pop the round, plastic shifter bushing out of the metal arm, and then you can push the shifter lever to the side and see the clip straight below. You rotate the clip so it is in the right direction and use a screwdriver or other tool to push the clip down and off.

But then you'll have to get under the car to put the clip back on, so it's easier to just go below the car.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:24 AM   #67
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I just replaced ALL of the shifter bushings on my car without removing the exhaust or driveshaft. The only thing I didn't replace was the transmission seal. All of the bushings are very doable this way EXCEPT the rod joint (the small metal part with the foam inside). The rod joint was a huge pain to remove the metal ring and then a HUGE pain to re-insert the metal pin. It took me 2 hours just for this one little part because it is so difficult to reach and to see.

So if you don't feel like taking your exhaust or driveshaft out, you can do this entire job - MINUS the rod joint - with a work light and patience in a couple hours.

Tip #1: Installing the rubber bushing closest to the hazard button will require a particular shaped tool/piece of metal to use as a pry bar to press the it into the slots... I used a metal towel hanger that is meant to rest over a door.

Tip #2: Removing the bolt/pin clip that holds the rubber bushing located above the tranny (for the top metal arm) required me to bend a cheap, long, thin screwdriver (from the dollar store) in order to pry the clip off. Otherwise there was no room for the screwdriver to properly slide in and pry it off.
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:30 AM   #68
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I just replaced ALL of the shifter bushings on my car without removing the exhaust or driveshaft. The only thing I didn't replace was the transmission seal. All of the bushings are very doable this way EXCEPT the rod joint (the small metal part with the foam inside). The rod joint was a huge pain to remove the metal ring and then a HUGE pain to re-insert the metal pin. It took me 2 hours just for this one little part because it is so difficult to reach and to see.

So if you don't feel like taking your exhaust or driveshaft out, you can do this entire job - MINUS the rod joint - with a work light and patience in a couple hours.

Tip #1: Installing the rubber bushing closest to the hazard button will require a particular shaped tool/piece of metal to use as a pry bar to press the it into the slots... I used a metal towel hanger that is meant to rest over a door.

Tip #2: Removing the bolt/pin clip that holds the rubber bushing located above the tranny (for the top metal arm) required me to bend a cheap, long, thin screwdriver (from the dollar store) in order to pry the clip off. Otherwise there was no room for the screwdriver to properly slide in and pry it off.
Yeah, but the exhaust can be dropped in a matter of minutes, the driveshaft, just a little longer. I say 45 real minutes for both. 30 minutes or less once you've done it once before.

And I needed no special tools for anything.
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Old 06-16-2017, 11:38 AM   #69
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:09 PM   #70
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Ugh, it drives me crazy how everyone on internet forums underestimates car repair times. Stop telling people it will take "a matter of minutes" to drop a freakin' entire exhaust system and driveshaft with "no special tools". For someone who has 100k+ miles on these parts, squeezing their body under their dirty car on a dark, dirty driveway with tools scattered everywhere... it is NEVER quick and easy and nothing ever takes 30-45 mins except an oil change.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:15 PM   #71
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Ugh, it drives me crazy how everyone on internet forums underestimates car repair times. Stop telling people it will take "a matter of minutes" to drop a freakin' entire exhaust system and driveshaft with "no special tools". For someone who has 100k+ miles on these parts, squeezing their body under their dirty car on a dark, dirty driveway with tools scattered everywhere... it is NEVER quick and easy and nothing ever takes 30-45 mins except an oil change.
Have you done it? I have.
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Old 06-16-2017, 01:19 PM   #72
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Wowww you are so special. I wish I could pat you on the back. Let's keep filling this thread up with sh!t to boost your ego so that the useful DIY info gets diluted. Just like every other internet forum thread.
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:24 PM   #73
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Wowww you are so special. I wish I could pat you on the back. Let's keep filling this thread up with sh!t to boost your ego so that the useful DIY info gets diluted. Just like every other internet forum thread.
Dude, chill out, man. It's all good. I don't do pissing contests on forums. Never have, never will.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:36 PM   #74
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I won't dispute that Fox Fader can do it that fast, but wallofgrath, I am in your camp... it would take me a lot longer... and for most people I think that is also the case. Some people have a real knack for these things...

I measure thrice, measure thrice more, put it together, and have to take it back apart because I forgot something! lol.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:36 AM   #75
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Thanks, cause with power tools, all the stuff zips right off. Especially if you have no rust to deal with. I had some on the exhaust flange bolts. Once I got those off, it was all down hill.
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Old 11-20-2018, 01:12 PM   #76
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I just did this whole job and one thing I noticed is that there was no way I could insert the yellow nylon washers. Even with just one washer on there was no way the pin would go through either the shift lever or selector shaft far enough to see the groove for the circlip. So I just left them out and it is still pretty tight. Both the shift lever and selector shaft have built in nylon bushings that extend a hair outside of them so the circlip is still running in nylon and I'm okay with that. Anyone else have this experience? Sure is quiet and smooth. Am a bit embarrassed to say that my guibo actually had small chunks that had fallen off. Probably because the output and selector shaft seals have been leaking for ages and wore the rubber out. The short throw is new for me but feels nice.
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:14 PM   #77
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^that is correct... the yellow washers aren't needed (or possible to use) with the e60 shifter, at least not the one I got!
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:12 PM   #78
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^that is correct... the yellow washers aren't needed (or possible to use) with the e60 shifter, at least not the one I got!
Thank you
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Old 12-01-2018, 10:45 PM   #79
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You're welcome. Mine still feels great (not much more shifter play than my 06 MX5) after 30,000 miles... Only wish I would have known about the poly shifter arm bushing when we did all that clutch/shifter work... Not sure they were available back then, but next time! https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_In...SABEgJo0_D_BwE
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:29 AM   #80
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Hi all, and sorry for wake up this thread again. Yesterday I did the job, and replace all shift bushings showed in this excellent thread (thanks LoveBeingUseless). All was ok, and I could do it without release the driveshaft. But now, my center point or death point or neutral point is sited over the right side of the car, much more than before bushings replace job.
It feels like there is no much path to the right from the center point, but to the left is ok and came back to "new center" again without difficult. Shifts selection works well, but can I feel that 5th gear slices direct from the center point and not doing the little right movement necessary to lock and pull. I know is related to the internal springs and pins on the gearbox, but I ask me if is there some thing what I can do to restore the center point that I had before the bushing replace or if I did something wrong during the re assembly process.

Another useful detail, when I disassembly the shifter rod, I did it with the selector or gearbox in 5th gear, cose this give us more space to job. But the assembly work after all bushing replaces was in neutral or center point. so, maybe something happens internally on the gearbox on the disassembly process??
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Any help or idea is welcome and thanks in advance.

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