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Old 04-11-2018, 03:15 AM   #1
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Snake oil or unicorn piss?

Yes here we have another oil additive thread.

When it comes to oils for the e46 its as simple as finding any LL-01 oil and filling her up. I've never bought into oil additives as my thought is "big oil companies do their research, how can product x decrease wear by 50%?".

So what's this unicorn piss I'm talking about?

Motorkote!

Basically I stumbled upon an amazing youtube video proving some of Motorkotes' claims. Watch the video and see for yourself!




Anyone have experience with Motorkote?


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Old 04-11-2018, 09:30 AM   #2
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Back in 1979, a product called 'Slick 50' made similar claims. Did the same tests, sold millions in product. I bet you've never heard of it.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:03 AM   #3
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Back in 1979, a product called 'Slick 50' made similar claims. Did the same tests, sold millions in product.
Lol....yep, and remember Dura-Lube too?

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Lol....yep, and remember Dura-Lube too.
"The company along with several others including Valvoline Engine Treatment, Slick 50 Engine Treatment, STP Engine Treatment, and Motor Up Corporation, was investigated by the Federal Trade Commission in 1999-2000 and was found to have no competent or reliable evidence substantiating these claims about its performance. In March 2000, Dura Lube and competitor Motor Up both settled Federal Trade Commission charges that performance claims for their engine treatments were deceptive and unsubstantiated."


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Back in the early 90s I fell for the marketing lies and, thinking I was being good to my car, used a similar product for about a year. I remember the company printing countless testimonials from customers who said their head gasket blew and their mechanic said it was lucky for them that they used the additive because their engines weren't damaged and could be rebuilt. Somehow that made sense to me at the time.

Sure enough, within 10k miles, the head gasket blew on my Nissan. A car known for never blowing gaskets.

I've never used an oil additive since, and I've regularly put over 200k miles on my engines now.
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:57 PM   #6
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BMW engines do not like oil additives. No engine should need oil additives, just do your oil changes on time
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:52 PM   #7
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Back in 1979, a product called 'Slick 50' made similar claims. Did the same tests, sold millions in product. I bet you've never heard of it.
Nope I've never heard of it, although I doubt they did the same tests.

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From what All2kool posted; Dura-Lube was investigated and stopped.


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BMW engines do not like oil additives. No engine should need oil additives, just do your oil changes on time

Yes, I agree regular oil changes are key to a healthy engine. Oil is the life blood and its usually not a good idea to add mystery fluids. That being said, kburger has been running lucas synthetic oil stabilizer with good results.

Project farm (guy who made the video) takes no sponsored endorsements and is an honest guy. He has tested many other oil additives, some of which have increased wear!

Thanks for the comments guys.

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Nope I've never heard of it, although I doubt they did the same tests.
You can doubt all you want but it won't make it any less true.
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Nope I've never heard of it, although I doubt they did the same tests.
If I remember correctly the commercials for Slick 50 said they ran an engine for hours after using Slick 50 then draining the oil and starting the engine.
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If I remember correctly the commercials for Slick 50 said they ran an engine for hours after using Slick 50 then draining the oil and starting the engine.
My high school auto shop did that without additives. They drained both oil and coolant and then stuck a brick on the gas pedal. Still went a few hours before it blew.
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I believe certain one use ceramics or MOS2 which has been used in europe and russia for decades with good results.
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You can doubt all you want but it won't make it any less true.
I think you missed my point... For clarification, I doubt a third party without endorsement from Slick 50 conducted tests which would validate Slick 50s claims.

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If I remember correctly the commercials for Slick 50 said they ran an engine for hours after using Slick 50 then draining the oil and starting the engine.
Did you guys watch the video?

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My high school auto shop did that without additives. They drained both oil and coolant and then stuck a brick on the gas pedal. Still went a few hours before it blew.
Thats crazy, now if only you had a video of that.

Edit: @sam_e787 - Project farm has a video specifically for MOS2 which is worth a watch.
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Did you guys watch the video?
Not sure why I had to, since I was just stating what "tests" the Slick 50 commercials had as "proof". I generally do not look at commercials for this type of - I would say crap - as they can say anything about what "test(s)" they ran with any result they want to advertise.

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My high school auto shop did that without additives. They drained both oil and coolant and then stuck a brick on the gas pedal. Still went a few hours before it blew.
Sometimes they run for awhile - most don't.

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Not sure why I had to, since I was just stating what "tests" the Slick 50 commercials had as "proof". I generally do not look at commercials for this type of - I would say crap - as they can say anything about what "test(s)" they ran with any result they want to advertise.


I'd recommend reading my posts and actually watching the video...

My whole point is how Project Farm is an unbiased crowed funded channel which has made hundreds of videos comparing automotive related products. He has no reason to fake these tests and vast majority of results are negative towards such oil additives.

He also did some testing on Slick 50... Although you'll probably not watch it...
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Oil manufactures state not to add any additives to their oil. Forgot where I read that, but it comes straight from them.
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I remember watching a treated engine run with water being blasted at the exposed crankshaft, some people don't realize that water is an excellent lubricant.
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oh the good memories of Slick 50 and Mario Andretti being one of the testers. Mario lied to me

Interesting video, not sure I can ever trust any of these after Slick 50 and Dura Lube. Lifetime warranty is only as long as the lifetime the company stays open.
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