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Old 11-10-2019, 01:20 PM   #1
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tie rod replace inner/outer separate or whole assy?

hey fanatics, kburger here. 690,000 miles on the 2000 323ci. check out my thread on that one. So driver side steering rack tie rod is shot, but only the inner is shot, outer with the little ball joint assembly looks great. Been wrenchin long time i can get the center nut loose ok. should i just replace the inner? i got the whole assy form mahle at ecs tuning60 bucks. opinions?
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Old 11-10-2019, 01:24 PM   #2
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Personally I'd do the whole thing if I were you, if it was the outer I'd just that. Either way it will have to be aligned.
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Old 11-10-2019, 01:52 PM   #3
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I'd replace both sides, whole assemblies, and the boots also...
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Old 11-10-2019, 02:00 PM   #4
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I'd replace both sides, whole assemblies, and the boots also...
Agree with doing both sides. Why get it aligned twice? I'd use whole assembly to start with all new threads. 600+ miles. Yikes. How are the brake lines?

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Old 11-10-2019, 03:15 PM   #5
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I'd replace both sides, whole assemblies, and the boots also...
this, its cheap, so why not
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Old 11-10-2019, 05:53 PM   #6
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The inner tie rods are not sold separately (outers are), so not sure you even have a choice! Inners don't really go bad unless they get pitted badly when a boot fails and is not repaired. Others have the ball joint that weaken over time.

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Old 11-11-2019, 01:56 AM   #7
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Change them all and buy new rubber boots, as you dont want to do same work twice.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:58 AM   #8
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excellent advice all thanks as always. Will see if my local shop has boots. I think right side is done already. so will do entire left side and boot. Today is last warm day for a week here in southeast pa better get cracking!!! no garage but i do have garage canopy so at least i stay dry. cold, but dry.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:00 AM   #9
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FYI the new style boots are 2-piece, with a rubber collar piece that fits around the tie rod shaft and a separate bellows, the idea being that if needed, you could replace the boots without separating the tie rod halves.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:01 AM   #10
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hey fanatics, kburger here. 690,000 miles on the 2000 323ci. check out my thread on that one. So driver side steering rack tie rod is shot, but only the inner is shot, outer with the little ball joint assembly looks great. Been wrenchin long time i can get the center nut loose ok. should i just replace the inner? i got the whole assy form mahle at ecs tuning60 bucks. opinions?
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Old 11-13-2019, 07:24 AM   #11
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:12 AM   #12
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Cracking Noise when accelerating

Hello Guys.. Anyone who experienced hearing cracking/rattling noise when accelerating from low speed. The location seems to be in the middle of the car. Anyway, my ride is e46 320i M-Sports (2001) with 66Kmiles.
Likewise, after staring the engine, I can hear a roaring sound (rough) that will last for 10minutes right after the engine gets hot..
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:19 AM   #13
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I disagree. The outers are where the real problem lies most of the time. If your bellows are in good condition I see no reason to replace the inners.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:15 AM   #14
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Hello Guys.. Anyone who experienced hearing cracking/rattling noise when accelerating from low speed. The location seems to be in the middle of the car. Anyway, my ride is e46 320i M-Sports (2001) with 66Kmiles.
Likewise, after staring the engine, I can hear a roaring sound (rough) that will last for 10minutes right after the engine gets hot..
You should start your own thread.

The roaring could be your fan coming on. Are you warming up the car while idling? If so, it has to come on to cool your engine.

If it's roaring while you're driving, then it sounds like you need to do some cooling system work (if I'm right and it's the fan you're hearing).
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:17 PM   #15
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The whole tie rod. Always.
Thanks i guess i'm doin inner and outer together.
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Old 11-18-2019, 10:05 PM   #16
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I always replace the part that's bad, and leave the rest.

BUT

I do my own work, and enjoy it. Including alignment.
So if the outer dies in another 25k,
it's no biggie to do that next.

I find that the BMW outer tie rod ends last approximately forever.
The inners maybe 150k.

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Old 11-29-2019, 05:57 AM   #17
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I always replace the part that's bad, and leave the rest.

BUT

I do my own work, and enjoy it. Including alignment.
So if the outer dies in another 25k,
it's no biggie to do that next.

I find that the BMW outer tie rod ends last approximately forever.
The inners maybe 150k.

t
pays a LOT of attention to which brands he buys these days...
thanks. I bought meyle i love all their suspension parts especially meyle HD. and i sub out with the M3 part when i can. the ride is stiffer but i get more miles out of the parts.
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