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View Poll Results: Which transmission would you pick for the new 997 Turbo?
Manual 55 77.46%
Tiptronic S 16 22.54%
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:22 PM   #1
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Porsche 911 Turbo: manual vs. Tiptronic S

Would you pick the manual transmission or the Tiptronic S transmission for the new 997 Turbo? I know manual is the way to go but considering the car is actually faster with the Tiptronic S, I thought that might "alter" your decision.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:24 PM   #2
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Not at all. Manual is the way to go for the Porsche. Tiptronic is the crappiest system I've seen. Its just like an automatic. You get small buttons on your steering wheel, why would you want that? F1 and SMG is different.
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:28 PM   #3
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According to Porsche, 0-100 km/h for manual is 3.9 seconds where the 0-100 km/h for Tiptronic S is 3.7 seconds.

0-160 km/h for manual is 8.4 seconds
0-160 km/h for Tiptronic S is 7.8 seconds (that's quite a difference!)

http://www.porsche.com/middle-east/m...turesandspecs/
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:30 PM   #4
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BTW, I know Tiptronic S is just an automatic and nothing like SMG or F1, but the point here is that it's faster than the manual in this situation.
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when you spend 150K on a car you must be retarded to buy an auto, especially if its not even F1 or SMG like
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when you spend 150K on a car you must be retarded to buy an auto, especially if its not even F1 or SMG like
not really.

How many NON-car enthusiasts do you think want to drive manual after a hard day at work....stuck in rushhour etc etc

i'd personally get the 6spd(even if it was slightly slower), but I could definately see some of the older people opting for the auto...the fact that it's faster only sweetens the deal for them
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Old 08-27-2006, 03:52 PM   #7
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i don't see a problem with anyone buying that car in auto, especially (as said above), the people who buy these cars aren't always looking to drive a manual...

I myself would probably buy the manual though, only cuz I hate Porsche's automatic....the steering wheel buttons are so retarded in those cars...
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not really.

How many NON-car enthusiasts do you think want to drive manual after a hard day at work....stuck in rushhour etc etc

i'd personally get the 6spd(even if it was slightly slower), but I could definately see some of the older people opting for the auto...the fact that it's faster only sweetens the deal for them
I'm pretty sure anyone who can afford a 997 turbo will have a daily driver. Manual is just so much more fun. Who cares if it's slower, it still feels faster.
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Old 08-27-2006, 05:13 PM   #9
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I agree that the buttons on the Porsche Tiptronic are horrible. I'd prefer the switching to be only on the shifter. Doing simple **** like parallel parking, with one hand spinning the wheel I kept engaging the Tip buttons. While normal driving it wasn't bad but I didn't get into any hairy manuevers either where I could test out the hand/button placement.
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I'm pretty sure anyone who can afford a 997 turbo will have a daily driver. Manual is just so much more fun. Who cares if it's slower, it still feels faster.
A lot of rich people think of a 997 turbo as a DD
Check 6speedonline for those kind of people

But IMO, I would choose manual over tiptronic even if it's slower.
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I'm pretty sure anyone who can afford a 997 turbo will have a daily driver. Manual is just so much more fun. Who cares if it's slower, it still feels faster.
enh it's a mixed crowd.....I've met a handful of Turbo and C4S owners in Toronto and all of em drive their car in the winter(they have other cars too...but their reasoning is awd cars belong in ALL weather conditions )
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wow .2 seconds faster,, jeez youll really notice that
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But there's something I don't get .. the Tiptronic is 100 pounds heavier than the manual but still faster
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But there's something I don't get .. the Tiptronic is 100 pounds heavier than the manual but still faster
because theres no boost lost between shifts in an automatic.. you dont take your foot off the gas. auto's are alot more consistent in 1/4 mile and 0-60 times
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wow .2 seconds faster,, jeez youll really notice that
0-160 km/h for manual is 8.4 seconds
0-160 km/h for Tiptronic S is 7.8 seconds

That's more than .2 seconds.
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because theres no boost lost between shifts in an automatic.. you dont take your foot off the gas. auto's are alot more consistent in 1/4 mile and 0-60 times
What if with the manual you don't let-off the throttle between shifts? I know that would kill the clutch but would your times increase?
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Manual for sure, is there even a question involved? if you have to sit in rush hour traffic - granted an automatic would be far easier... so get a 2nd car.
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My buddy actually went over to spain for the official release of the new 997 TT, he got to drive it on their track both with trained instructors and by himself. He was very impressed with the auto although he hates SMG and auto. With all the technology and advanced PSM in these cars it almost makes sense to go with an auto and leave out one part of the car where the drive still can mess up.


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^^^ Interesting. Ive ridden in a Tiptronic Boxster and 996 Carrera. The autos in those cars were on the crappier side IMO. I wonder if they really improved it, or if your buddy was just so overwhelmed by the speed, he didnt notice how smoothly it shifted, etc.
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I'd want to drive both before making the choice. If it were a daily, I might get an auto but if it were a fun weekend car, I would possibly go with the manual. I'm not a super hardcore auto elitist so I usually don't shun the autos if they make sense (daily traffic, convenience). I do dislike the shifting mechanism of the Porsches though. My ex's 06 Boxster S tiptronic was such a slow shifter. The buttons on the wheel are pretty flimsy too. What car was it that Porsche was planning on introducing paddles on?
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