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Old 04-30-2009, 12:31 AM   #1
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What is the TRUE weight of the VMR CSL rep!?

So, I was looking at possible future mods online and since I've always loved CSLs, I was thinking about buying another set of Velocity Motoring CSL reps for my new M. So I looked at EAS's site and heres the weights that are given for the sizes I would get:

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19x8.5": 25.0lbs
19x9.5": 25.5lbs

Sounds great.. decently lightweight compared to stock 19s and IMO look amazing, but then I stumbled on this from the VMR site:

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19x8.5": 25.7lbs
19x9.5": 27.0lbs

What gives?

Also, I've heard a few people on m3forums.net weighed these rims in at heavier weights. If I bought these I would like to know that I'm getting a 25lb wheel as opposed to a 27 or 28lb wheel. Otherwise I might just have to bite the bullet and save up for some OEM CSLs

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Old 04-30-2009, 10:33 AM   #2
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:09 PM   #3
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"Biting the bullet" and "Saving up for" sounds funny together in the same sentence.
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EAS offers the same VMR Wheels which we manufacturer here at Velocity Motoring. They are actually our EXCLUSIVE dealer for the Matte Black and Gun Metal finishes. Our official weights are posted on our website.

Depending how accurate your scales are, weights could sometimes be slightly off.

VMR Wheels 19" VB3 Weights:

19 x 8.5" - 25.7 lbs
19 x 9.5" - 27.0 lbs
19 x 10" - 27.5 lbs

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Old 04-30-2009, 08:14 PM   #5
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EAS offers the same VMR Wheels which we manufacturer here at Velocity Motoring. They are actually our EXCLUSIVE dealer for the Matte Black and Gun Metal finishes. Our official weights are posted on our website.

Depending how accurate your scales are, weights could sometimes be slightly off.

VMR Wheels 19" VB3 Weights:

19 x 8.5" - 25.7 lbs
19 x 9.5" - 27.0 lbs
19 x 10" - 27.5 lbs

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So if EAS is the exclusive dealer of your wheels, why are their numbers different from yours? Maybe Tom can answer.. I'd just like to see where they got their numbers from.
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If you are getting 19" wheels, i don't get why weight is of such concern. 19" and bigger you are gaining only losing performance on an E46 in exchange for better looks. Also if you are getting replica wheels, doesn't that mean looks and price is your top priority?

And why would you buy OEM CSL/Competition Package wheels?
Front wheel - 8JX19 ET47 - 27.836 lbs
Rear wheel - 9.5JX19 ET27 - 30.402 lbs

That's even heavier than the VMR wheels.

If you care about weight look into something like BBS, SSR, Volk, Enkie, TRMotorsport, and D-force to name a few.
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If you are getting 19" wheels, i don't get why weight is of such concern. 19" and bigger you are gaining only losing performance on an E46 in exchange for better looks. Also if you are getting replica wheels, doesn't that mean looks and price is your top priority?

And why would you buy OEM CSL/Competition Package wheels?
Front wheel - 8JX19 ET47 - 27.836 lbs
Rear wheel - 9.5JX19 ET27 - 30.402 lbs

That's even heavier than the VMR wheels.

If you care about weight look into something like BBS, SSR, Volk, Enkie, TRMotorsport, and D-force to name a few.
Idk where you got those weights but the consensus on this forum and m3forum.net is

Front 19x8. 23lbs
Rear 19x9,5. 24,2lbs

And they are actually made by BBS germany.

I want 19s because IMO 18s look too small on an M. And I'd get some ltw wheels but they all look pretty ugly IMO on an e46. I'd only consider bbs for aftermarket but I'm not going to blow 4k on wheels. Also 19s are pretty close to 18s in performance since smaller tire sidewalls usually offset the weight difference and if I got the csls they would actually be lighter than a lot of 18s out there
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Here's a 19x9.5" CSL on the scale:



Note weights will vary from time to time slightly due to bolt patterns/offsets among other things. Also, tire weights play the most important factor in overall weight - I've seen many people spend hundreds on lightweight wheels and install heavy tires afterwards.

If you should need an immediate answer, please call us or email directly rather than posting a thread and hoping we stumble upon it.

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Note weights will vary from time to time slightly due to the casting process. Also, tire weights play the most important factor in overall weight - I've seen many people spend hundreds on lightweight wheels and install heavy tires afterwards.

If you should need an immediate answer, please call us or email directly rather than posting a thread and hoping we stumble upon it.
Sorry about that Tom, I'm just so used to you guys always being so attentive to the the various forum threads.

I'm running PS2s so tire weight isn't a factor for me, I'm just trying to skim down on the wheel weight while adding to the aesthetics. Thanks for the response!
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